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I thought the Army was full of people who were ready and willing to serve and fight for their country, and older NCOs scuffing you up for the smallest things to mentally prepare you for battles to come.. but after a few months of being in, I quickly realized that most are just there for college or for a paycheck, and apparently my generation isn't too keen on harsh words and loud voices.
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Welcome to the new Army Private! Grab your stress card, line up for your monthly feel good counseling, and never feel the wrath of a good smoke session! Oh sorry, I forgot to call you Private First Class. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. If I did, well there goes my career! (Being sarcastic of course. LOLZ)
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I enlisted for everything that's the opposite of what they are now. I once had an NCO who had to debate on doing paperwork or just let it go when I made a mistake, so I pulled him aside and said, 'Hey Sergeant, if you want you can pull me besides the dumpsters and smoke the dogsh*t out of me. No one has to know!'. I think it's stupid that NCOs get in trouble for doing what they're supposed to do now.
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SGT Bryan Stanley
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Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it!
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SGT (Join to see) - Different times now man. When I joined in '09, things were on the downhill of getting soft. No more DS's in AIT, a little bit of hand holding through out AIT, but I still got the shit smoked out of me in my first unit a couple times for various reasons. Showed up to the company run drunk/hung-over a few times, missed a spot shaving, wore a short sleeve PT shirt when I had no clean long sleeve shirts. I could go on, but after a while I went from being a strong private to a smart one.
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I used to be tempted to fuck up on purpose to just get told to do push-ups; but paperwork was the way to go following a chewing out. Not worth.
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CPT Jack Durish
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All I knew of the military came from reading Beetle Bailey comics. Thus every day brought surprises
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PO1 John Crafton - ...and the chow hall. Don't forget that. The food in the Army was actually good
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I agree. When I first joined the Air Force I bled blue... but after countless irrelevant training classes, too much desk jockey paperwork, lack of a sense of teamwork, leadership who doesn't seem to care about anything with the mission as long as they get ahead... its turned more into a civilian job. It is hard to say but almost makes me miss the structure, and discipline of basic training. But that doesn't change how I do what is expected of me or how I view what I'm doing. I couldn't agree more!
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I have more experience sitting in SHARP and EO briefs than I do training for a deployment or my actual MOS and it kind of makes me ponder if it was worth it, considering my ideas of the military and how it should be are just a thing of the past now.
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What did you think the military would be like before enlisting, and how has it changed after?
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I went through Basic/AIT at Ft Leonard Wood in 1990; several of the SSGs and SFCs were Vietnam era NCOs, the 1SGs and SGMs were definitely Vietnam vets- it was exactly what I expected. I remember my Drill Sgt on pick-up day yelling, "If you joined my Army for college money you need to get the f*** out now or I will kill you before these next eight weeks are over" I cant imagine that being said today in any service.

The biggest change I've seen is how much more technically savvy the combat arms branches, especially the Infantry & Combat Engineers, have gotten; the physical hardness will always be the same but the amount of knowledge needed by these guys to survive on the modern battlefield is much higher than it was 25 years ago.
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I would've loved to be of age during the 90s Military, sir. My grandfather was a WWII veteran, he and his friends from the war always telling me stories about how tough it was and how being pushed to your absolute limits helped forge friendships that lasted forever. I expected more from basic and AIT, but I didn't get what I wanted. I had a chance for a vigorous training experience, but I was involuntarily dropped from the course. I still have time for schools that haven't been affected by the "dumbing down", so I haven't given up hope.

In addition to the basics, I'm expecting a big technological change in the coming years. I'm looking forward to what I need to know and how to maintain advanced equipment in the future.
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SGT Bryan Stanley
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I agree with your assessment. While I was in, I watched basic training change. There were these things called stress cards. If a person can't handle the stress of training, why are they there? Nothing can fully prepare you for combat, but a simulation to that environment helps. There is nothing wrong with wanting to better ones self. Just don't forget what we are here for, in the first place. Those there for a paycheck are in for a rude awakening, if and when they are deployed.
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I've experienced soldiers who were within a few years of age of me and couldn't handle getting yelled at or curse words. For me, personally, I couldn't get enough of it. I was born in the wrong time, perhaps, SGT.
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SGT Bryan Stanley
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I was raised in a totally different generation than what I see coming up,now. There is not near enough respect for their elders. This type of behavior filters into the workplace, as they get older. For some of the young people today, work ethic has gone to the wayside. From your statement about not getting enough of it, it sounds like you welcomed the structure and self-discipline that it gave you. Keep it up and you will be a good NCO or Officer, someday.
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To be honest with you, I've felt like I've been in the military my whole life. My grandfather served on Iwo Jima, and from him I started befriending old generation and younger Marines, and from there I made friends in all branches all before I enlisted. I'm quite jealous I wasn't old enough before the new Army happened, I keep hearing stories and it makes me sad. Just the other day, in a brief with the BN CSM, he asks the room of E1-E5 how the 82nd ABN earned their French Fourragère... I was literally the only person who was able to answer it. No one seems to care about history, tradition or respect anymore.
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SGT Bryan Stanley
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I agree with you, totally.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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I was looking for something different, a greater purpose. I actually found what I was looking for. By the time Basic training ended I asked the 1SG if I could sign up for 20! So, for me, I knew that is where I wanted to be. Thank you for your service.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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Pretty Much what I expected before, during and after 21 years in the Navy. Plenty of Different Motivations but I came in past Zumwalt and he saw the early trend and continued and emphasized it as did those that followed. A Technical Navy full of Technicians, Engineers and Scientists with which I served with the Finest. Literal Rocket Scientist, Satellite/Computer/Telecommunications Engineers, Nuclear Engineers, Aerospace Engineers and my Shipmates lower down in the Ranks some of the Finest and Most Skilled Technicians Ever.
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MSG Pat Colby
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I moved in with my Dad a few months prior to him retiring from the Marines. Sure I saw Military movies but nothing first hand. He was a retiring (E-7) Crew Chief in an empty hanger in Millington, TN. Maybe 10 guys "working" in a building the size of a football field. Went to his official retirement party and there was probably 20-25 people there. It was a low key thing. Couple days later went to his unofficial retirement party with his friends. 80 drunk ass people, mostly Marines. That was it. My entire exposure to Military life.

He was pissed when I went Army and joined the Paratroopers. I had absolutely no fucking idea what I was getting myself into when I joined. I just knew I needed to do something with my life and I wanted a challenge. 24+ years later, I too retired but as an E-8.
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CPL Anthony Slaughter
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It was incredible how much the Army changed while I was in. I remember going to Basic Training in Fort Leonard Wood, and getting smoked several times a day, getting screamed at all the time, and having to keep my nose in my smart-book after finishing chow. A few years later I went back to Leonard Wood for Sapper School, and everything was different. The Drill Sergeants weren't yelling, I didn't seen entire Company's getting smoked, and there were TV's inside the chow hall... and Privates were watching them.
It was like stepping into The Twilight Zone or something.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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I thought it would be like some of the show I watched as a kid, I was close, but no cigar. It was totally different.
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