What do you think of noncitizens voting in American elections?

CW5 (Join to see) I believe only US Citizens should be allowed to vote. As a citizen we earn that privilege. I say privilege for if you commit a felony, renounce your citizenship, or become convicted of perjury to name a few, that privilege is stripped. Illegal re entry into the US is a felony (at some point) and this means NO VOTE.

Why should someone who is not a citizen have the right to vote?

While I agree "Undocumented immigrants" are people, the right to vote is not the same as being respected as a person or individual. Provide respect, and if the undocumented immigrant wishes to vote have them become documented as a citizen and earn the right to vote.

Our right to vote is a sacred duty for all citizens. I will vote as often as the poles are open.

With illegals voting and ballot boxes switching votes, I don't have a lot of hope for the upcoming elections.

Anyone who believes in law and order should find the answer relatively simple. Noncitizens don't have the right to vote in local, state and federal elections and should never be afforded the right to do so until they are naturalized. The whole thing about not requiring voter identification is nonsense. That is a setup for election fraud.

The Constitution with the applicable amendements is pretty clear that only US citizens over the age of 18 may vote in Federal elections. Foreigners, green card holders, illegal immigrants and US citizens under 18 years of age are ineligible to vote. Integrity in our election process ensures that the voice of the citizens of the United States is not lost

CW5 (Join to see), Registration Director Wagner is just being exceptionally candid about the minimal checks in almost all registrar's offices.

There are sound legal and philosophical reasons for basing voter registration on a presumption that residency is equivalent to citizenship, and those reasons trace back to a very familiar line in the Declaration of Independence: "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." In legal terms, that used to mean that any person physically within the United States was presumed to be a legal citizen and the legal burden of proof lay with anybody challenging that presumption -- after all, if the government's sovereignty derived from the collective consent of the citizenry, the government should have severely constrained power to disavow the citizenship of a native resident.

Please do not mistake this as an argument against requiring voters to identify themselves. Requiring prospective voters to make the minimal preparations for voting of registering in advance and carrying some form of identification to show that they are who they claim to be are nothing at all like requiring you to document your citizenship just to vote (or get a job -- a whole 'nother grumble of mine).

Also, given the common practice of using voter registration records for selecting candidates for jury duty, it would seem very reasonable to require the courts to notify the registrars when somebody who has registered to vote has explicitly disavowed his or her citizenship to avoid jury duty. After all, that's just taking the self-identified non-citizen at his or her sworn word.

Honestly, what is the point of having any rules at all, if when it comes to ACTUALLY ENFORCING THEM, you're treated like you're the Devil incarnate? It's easy to say "Undocumented immigrants are people too; let them vote" when you don't consider having some sort of mechanism to ensure the integrity of the process. Let's look at it this way: If a platoon sized element of immigrants were to walk in your house, start eating your food, and otherwise claiming your home for themselves, how would you feel if someone said to you, "undocumented immigrants are people too, let them take over your home, and if you don't agree to that, you're a RACIST?" Bottom line: it's an issue of showing some good old fashioned respect and having some manners and being a "good house guest" until you get your own place, and like it or not, the integrity of the process in which we govern needs to trump PC induced effeminate BUTTHURT!

The US Constitution explicitly states that CITIZENS of the United States have the right to vote in our elections. CITIZENS... That doesn't mean "undocumented immigrants" or people here on visas or green cards... it means CITIZENS. There's a big difference between a citizen and a resident too.

I believe that US citizens should vote and voting should be extended to people that pay taxes in this country, only because if you are contributing to the country, I think you should have a say on who the people you're contributing to or how you should be governed. Just my two cents.

There's just no way a non USA person should be allowed to vote in our country. If they want to vote somewhere, they can go back to the country they are from and vote there.

Conservative ire hit fever pitch last fall when The Man Who Would Be King issued his royal edict granting legal status to millions of illegal immigrants, aka: future Democrat voters. Turns out conservative concerns regarding voter fraud and other illegalities in connection with Obama’s executive action were right on the money. Or the ballot box, as the case may be.

In news that should surprise no one, The Washington Times reports that President Obama’s temporary deportation amnesty “will make it easier for illegal immigrants to improperly register and vote in elections.” Testifying before Congress on Thursday, state elections officials say that the driver’s licenses and Social Security numbers illegals will be granted “create a major voting loophole.”


Wasn’t that the end game all along?

It is illegal for non-citizens to vote. But since when do those who enter the country illegally worry about complying with the law when it comes to voting? Although anyone registering to vote must attest s/he is a citizen, many illegal immigrants simply ignore that part – kind of like crossing the border illegally. And states lack the tools to weed them out.

Testifying before Congress on Thursday, Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted said mass registration drives via shopping malls, motor vehicle bureaus, curbside or other efforts often can’t or won’t differentiate between legal and illegal status of registrants, so illegal immigrants will still get through.

Kris W. Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, also said some motor vehicle bureau workers automatically ask customers if they want to register to vote, and that some noncitizens have broken the law on that basis.

Last November, Obama announced executive action granting tentative legal status and work permits to nearly 4 million illegal immigrant parents whose children are either U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents. But wait. It gets better. Reports The Washington Times:

Republicans say there are a host of unintended consequences, including the chances of illegal voting, a perverse incentive created by Obamacare that would make newly legalized workers more attractive to some businesses than American workers and complications with the tax code.

The newly legalized workers can apply for back refunds from the IRS even for years when they didn’t file their taxes, agency Commissioner John Koskinen told Congress on Wednesday.

Both Koskinen and the secretaries of state who testified to the House Committee on oversight and Government Reform on Thursday said they never heard from President Lawless about potential consequences in advance of his policy changes.

That assumes, of course, that Obama could tear himself away from the links long enough to actually think through some of those pesky potential consequences.

Not to be outdone, Democrats immediately accused Republicans of “voter suppression.” Funny how minor details like the law and the Constitution only seem to matter to these folks when they’re trying to further their own agendas. Or recruit new Democrat voters. Or, in the case of The Man Who Would Be King, who seems to routinely ignore both whenever they represent an inconvenient detour on his road to lawlessness, continue his unilateral reign, unchecked.

In January, the House voted to defund President Obama’s executive action on immigration and roll back the 2012 Obama administration order on so-called “Dreamers,” which granted tentative legal status to children brought to the U.S. as illegal immigrants as well as work permits. Senate Democrats blocked the bill earlier this month.

Anyone that allows illegals to vote, in my book, is guilty of treason.