Posted on Jul 8, 2016
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What do you think of the black lives matter movement? I think it's ironic that they're chanting that they want dead cops, but somehow they aren't inciting violence and when the shooting starts they all run for cover and expect the cops that they want dead to protect them. BLM is a terrorist organization that incite violence and are a bunch of hypocrites.
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SPC Kirk Gilles
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It is a political organization. Follow the money backward to see which party gives the marching orders. Occupy Wall Street was a ad hoc political organization too. It's just another tool of distraction and division. And it works. Occupy vanished after the election cycle ended. BLM may do the same. The leaders become wealthy and hit the speaking circuit. The funding dries up, regular people are left no better off. No change occurs.
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SSG Daniel Brewster
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Wise words here, Kirk. While I agree that there's a lot of intentional division taking place, I'm never going to understand the black experience in America. You know, I'm a middle-aged white guy that lives in the suburbs & don't have any close friends who are black. Said another way, I haven't lived it. I haven't worried about my black son or daughter going out on the town and having a cop light 'em up because of their skin color. Having said all that, I have a ton of Facebook pals that I've worked with over the years or went to school with and many of them are black - and almost universally all of them give some sort of credence to BLM. And you know what? I respect my pals and most of 'em are all pretty smart. So... if they think there's something to it, maybe it's me that doesn't understand the depth of BLM. Perhaps supporting BLM is the method they use to express their frustration and rage with the inequity in America?
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CW3 David Covey
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Soros...
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Here is the problem with this thread. When we talk about BLM, we are talking pass each other because we don't understand the perspective of BLM and people who talk about Blue Lives, All lives etc. We focus on the name of the movement and the rhetoric and not the intent. BLM is the manifestation of the percieved and real injustice against black people by cops based on personal experiences and media hype. Yes, black on black crime is huge but it's not for external community's to ridicule and think it will shift the conversation. Yes, I agree all lives matter but that phase was established as a means to counter BLM narrative. Now when people in BLM sees ALL lives matter, it sounds more like anti-BLM which simply inflames BLM more. I'm not saying one side is right and the other is wrong but you have to understand the perspective of the people within a movement to have a meaningful dialogue. As a product of two races and a son of a police chief, I lived both sides of these issues along with living with the complications of multiple races.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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Humans react and make judgments based on fears of change, the idea that Blacks have decide to say enough after generations of being on the receiving ends of what should be a equal representation within our governments is hard for some white Americans, that fail to see that their own state governments say the same thing about the federal government telling to provide health care for all, leave women reproductive right alone, or treat all religions alike. All comes down to change, and yes there are a few bad cops out there but no one talks about them or how to fire them.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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Cpl D L Parker - Faux news has it own problem with women and sexual harassment in the work place.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Well said... very well said.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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Cpl D L Parker - The problem though is that BLM itself is not consistent with the message and image it wants to put out. There are BLM folks who protest peacefully and at the very same rally there are BLM folks who are acting the fool. So if you want folks "outside" of the movement to take it seriously, the BLM movement needs to do some soul searching as to what their message really is and then clean house of those folks who are not endorsing that message.
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It's a hate group. Other than that I'm not sure what good comes out of such an open-ended question.

And just in case I'm labeled a "racist," let me introduce you to a few more:

Ku Klux Klan (KKK) groups
Neo-Nazi groups
White nationalist groups
Racist skinhead groups
Black separatist groups
Neo-Confederate groups
Christian Identity groups
Jamaat al-Muslimeen
Jewish Task Force
Masjid al Islam

It looks like hate transcends racial, ethnic, and religious boundaries.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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Capt Michael Greene, the left and the media fanning the flames IS the underlying problem in my opinion. The dysfunction in that culture is the result of the left continually stirring the pot for political advantage despite the suffering they cause.
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Capt Michael Greene
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Trying to understand that. By "The Left stirring the pot" do you mean "Liberals trying to change things that don't need changing"?

The underlying problem in Ferguson might have something to do with 350 years of government-enforced destruction of the Black family, capped off with a War on Drugs and a local government that was fleecing the local Black population through its oppressive, racist, and militarized police force.
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CPT John Sheridan
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"Stop shooting people in my neighborhood". Wow! What a hateful message.
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So BLM is a hate group because they say Hands up don't shoot? Whats inherently racist about that? or because they protest when innocent victims are murdered by the police? Whats racist about that? Do you feel that your life doesn't matter if a Black person believes that their life should matter?
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SrA Matthew Knight
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They are more racist than most of the racists they say their movement aims to fight. They cause more harm than good in their protests by spreading toxic and racist propaganda to the public along with causing damage and riots in their own communities. They are hypocrites 100% and I have no respect for anyone that's a part of that movement.
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SPC Michael Lynch
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Why does he need to study up. Actions are stronger then words and so far the BLM's actions haven't been the kind that put them in the good guys column.
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I believe at the core the BLM movement is not one of violence. There are legitimate concerns they are voicing. However, as with any movement, outside actors will infiltrate. This has indeed happened. It is not completely the fault of BLM. Many of the individuals are paid protestors coming from out of state. Those are the ones that are really causing the problems. They really don't even belong to BLM. They have used the movement to conduct their own anarchist attacks. This, of course, can happen with any movement. Social media has really complicated matters.

Really though, I want to highlight the media's portrayal of both that movement, the occupy movement, and the Tea Party movement. I posit that the media has really been an instigator in much of the issues we face today.

Both BLM and the Occupy movement received (and continue) to receive very favorable media coverage. Conversely, the Tea Party movement was instantly branded as a fringe and radical right wing movement by the majority of the press. That was as far from the truth as it could be.

Of the three, I considered the Occupy protests to be the most fringe, amounting to nothing more than unemployed anarchists trying to disrupt the economy.

Of course, this is the same media that calls Trump racist, despite his efforts to end the segregation at Mar-A-Lago club in the nineties. Prior to his ownership, Jews and Blacks had not been allowed. he ended that. But of course, what the media says is gospel.

The media has become the most polarizing source in this country.
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This will give you an idea of what Black Lives Matter mean. https://youtu.be/NtAAeyswlHM
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SSG Warren Swan
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Awesome.
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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"0" - all lives matter.
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TSgt Joe C.
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All lives matter...I agree!
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You can't have All Lives Matter without Black Lives Matter. If you aren't willing to focus on the challenges facing black lives there days, I can't help but question your commitment to all lives matter.
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I think that this shouldn't be about black or white. It should be about human beings. We all are human beings and we all should be granted the same right as part of this country but those rights comes with big responsibilities. We all no matter race have the responsibility of respect and follow the laws but in my opinion the most important responsibility we have is to respect others.
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So true
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The most intelligent response thus far. It is made an issue when black and white are made the main focus as most posts here have been. Way to go battle!
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SGT Rick Ash
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Black Lives Matter, Blue Lives matter, White Lives matter.... ALL lives matter. But police are a different breed. Would YOU walk up and knock on the window of a carload of blacks or whites without apprehension? Who knows what you might face? The majority of police really do want to SERVE and PROTECT. If I am driving and cross the yellow line several times and get noticed by a patrol car I don't mind getting pulled over. What if I really was DUI or DWI and getting stopped prevented me from killing myself or another carload of people? But anytime I have seen a parade of BLM advocates marching down the street I always see signs that say "Kill the Pigs" Ever seen a cadre of police filling the street carrying signs that say "Kill the Blacks!"? No, and you won't.
My and my wifes' hearts, thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the officers whom were killed or wounded today by a lone wolf nut job. That guy got blown into dime sized pieces by the police robot carrying Semtex. That makes me smile.... :-)
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SP5 Christine Conley - Nobody was killed for a broken tail light. That's absurd. The days of Buford Pusser are over.
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SP5 Christine Conley - Again, the blacks dying more than whites argument is a fallacy. More whites are shot by police than blacks. Research shows in shootings, police show no racial bias. NYT, for what its worth, but the FBI backs up the actual shooting statistics. 50% are white, 30% are black and 20% Hispanic or other. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html
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CPT Pedro Meza
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why is that that White guys are the first to make connections with Black Lives Matter, but not make the same connection when white officers take the easy way out by shooting Black Americans.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SPC Kirk Gilles - You are the one reading into the cover, I am directing the issue to the fact that the guy had mental health issues and was not treated, which is the same thing that happened in Colorado, Florida, Sandy Hook, etc. We have a mental health problem and all these guys used the same weapon AR 15 and before You say to claim that I blame the weapon, once again I say it is a Mental Health issue that has not been address and we have had other shooting on military bases all are lack of mental health.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SSG (Join to see) - As prior law enforcement I say that we have a problem with a small percent of bad cops that I call the 1% in each department, this 1% takes advantage of the Code of Silence that is common in Law Enforcement and inadequate training to survive and continue to exist in law enforcement and create problems. The only solution is that we address this issue and that the other 99% stop supporting the Code of Silence and police their own. In the late 90's I tried but it almost got me killed that is why I was called Serpico and also left the country. We have a problem with 1% bad cops per police department, bad police training and mental health individuals that will kill (crazy people kill)!
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SPC Kirk Gilles
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CPT Pedro Meza - Perceived Racial hated by cops is criminal all the time but actual racial hate by BLM and this shooter is only, always, a mental health issue. (?) BLM has now adopted ISIS media images and techniques. A former Miss Alabama praised the shooter as a "Martyr".
Mental health or terror?
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SPC Kirk Gilles - you are just reporting what other mental health individuals are doing and applying what these few say and do to a very large movement. The question do you add to the problem by painting all with the brush of a few nuts and therefore feeding into their hate or do you see that this groups is just like the 1% of bad cops per department. Your choice as to how you add or take away from the problem. Sad that that Johnson Commander failed to do as the female soldier requested that they Give Johnson mental health treatment. The Commander failed all of us.
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