Posted on Feb 14, 2014
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Should this airman receive any disciplinary action?
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COL Jonas Vogelhut
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I think the airman forgot she was in uniform, and likely on duty.  Her behavior is disrespectful, and should be disciplined. What if a doctor did this in a hospital, or a teacher in a school?
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SFC Surplus Soldier
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She needs to be out of the Air Force no questions asked
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SFC Aaron Lewis
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This photograph is absolutly appauling.  How many ways can a Soldier or Airman in this case show disrespect and dishonor for the uniform.  Well here is one way.
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MSG Senior Maintenance Supervisor
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My father served in Vietnam from 66-67, I can't imagine his reaction to this.

 

This shows a complete lack or moral judgement, and it is a slap in the face to ALL POW/MIA's. I would like to see a formal appology written to all surviving members of each POW/MIA, then Dishonorable discharge.

 

I don't see any comedy in this image, I only see broken homes, and Son's that didnt return to families during Vietnam. I can't even think of anything else to say about this SM, and she is Security Forces? How could she police up people breaking the law when she cannot even police up her own dishonor.

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I feel like I am a little late in the game seeing this, but it is absolutely disrespectful in every way. I don't think any punishment short of UCMJ would be appropriate and I would definitely take her rank. I also don't know if this was posted online or not and if so that is even worse because this is now image non military have of airmen and the military in general. 

Jokes are ok, pranks are good, all of that is ok in the right context and with the right audience. This isn't a prank, its not funny. That MIA/POW flag carries a special meaning for a lot of people, anyone who has ever been to SERE C has a special place in their heart for that flag. That is a slap in the face to any actual POW or family member of an MIA or POW. 

I don't think this kind of behavior is something that can be fixed. From what I understand we are downsizing across all branches right? Reduce her to E-1 and send her on her way. That kind of disrespect cannot be changed….
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SSgt Author
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I am not a vindictive "head hunter" by any means but this is B.S. a service member should know better and have enough sense to not misrepresent the service this way. She is not the only one though, Marines, Soldiers and Airmen alike are ruining our image internationally through social media. 
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SSgt James Lima
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/report-us-air-force-general-drank-too-much-fraternized-with-foreign-women-in-moscow/2013/12/19/7f3cdba0-68ed-11e3-a0b9-249bbb34602c_story.html

I think a Major General in charge of the Nuclear Weapons program going on a 3-day drinking binge in Moscow and fraternizing with suspicious Russian women deserves more air time then this girl does. She was disrespectful. He could have (or maybe already has) gotten us all killed.
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very true, SSgt Lima....this AF General seems to be acting contrary to his security clearance and his position of trust. He certainly is engaging in behavior that is associated with someone who is likely to betray trust or be in a position to be manipulated and turned by intel services. Russian intelligence services are among the best in the world and undoubtedly have been watching this officer for their opportunity. I would, however, suggest that this might be a good subject for a question under it's own heading. Why don't you post this as it's own question on Rallypoint and design a discussion to elicit comments on this controversial officer?
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CMSgt James Nolan
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The photo is not appropriate to anything.  Her actions and the actions of the photographer are worthy of discipline.  As an E-4, she should know better than to act this way, it brings dishonor to the uniform.  More importantly, it shows that somewhere, Leadership failed to instill proper values in her.  We as NCOs have a responsibility to teach our young warriors the history and traditions of service.  
Her actions are inexcusable, and some people require "additional attention" when they are learning what it means to serve.  Some people never "get it".  Since it is likely that none of us know this Airman, it is unlikely that we will ever learn if she "gets it", we can only hope that someone is there to teach the lesson.  Our POW/MIA troops deserve nothing but the highest respect and the undying efforts to bring them home, at any cost. 
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thank you for your comment, SMSgt Nolan
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Enough said here already spot on to support my opinion about the photo and the "retreat" incident that week also!
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SFC John Durham
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Maybe a couple of months at SERE school. That might help!
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