Posted on Oct 2, 2015
What do you think our military composition should be?
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Try to ignore what current forces we have and start from scratch. What do you think the shape of the Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, or Coast Guard should look like?
I'll post about the Navy since I would be largely guessing about the other services.
I think it will be interesting to see what we come up with!
I'll post about the Navy since I would be largely guessing about the other services.
I think it will be interesting to see what we come up with!
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In a perfect world?
We would have a Land Force, a Naval Force, and an Air Force. We would "attach" elements of each using a Joint methodology to fill expeditionary needs. This would effectively create the Naval Landing Components, the Air Ground Components, and the Naval Air Components, which would effectively be our "Marines."
We would have a Land Force, a Naval Force, and an Air Force. We would "attach" elements of each using a Joint methodology to fill expeditionary needs. This would effectively create the Naval Landing Components, the Air Ground Components, and the Naval Air Components, which would effectively be our "Marines."
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1SG Michael Blount
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - on the money, Devil. Take one from column A, another unit from column B and a third from column C, toss them together and...voila! Integrated Land Force or what have you. Problem with that is the higher-ups lose their commands and such a plan will never see the light of day. It just makes too much damned sense. That's one reason I don't like these perpetual surveys the Army conducts. Common sense solutions just never seem to get their due.
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An honest assessment of mission vs. need. For the Army, do we need it as big as it was? Can the mission be accomplished with the Marine Corps? Both have very efficient infantry mechanisms. Does the USMC mission need an overhaul? With that is the Amphib mission part of them outdated? How about the air wing of the Corps? Could that be absorbed by the Navy itself? The Air Force has a lot of nukes, could we shut some of them down, being that the Navy already has as many if not more that can be in place undetected within minutes? This is a dream in my opinion and would never happen, but we have many missions that cross over the branches and either could be consolidated, done away with, or lessened. It would save time and manpower costs.
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SSG Warren Swan
Sgt Richard Buckner - I can't argue with you on this. You're a Marine, and you know what y'all do far better than I. But for the sake of expediency, and in todays world where cost savings are at a premium, pride aside, you couldn't see where maybe a more composite series of branches would be more effective than individual ones that in many ways are the same as their sisters?
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I am in favor of a single unified service and the units in the services as they currently exist would be modular. Marine units would still have the same capabilities, Army units as well, same with the Navy and the Air Force. As joint warfighting is the norm now it makes sense to have a single unified command structure and culture. When I worked with the other services there were always challenges to overcome due to the differences. So standardizing everyone into the same culture and rank structure would minimize this. Also, this would lessen the logistics footprint as all of the materiel commands would be merged and redundancies would be removed. I think that the best traditions of each service could be preserved in order to make this more palatable. Of course whenever I mention this people immediately reject the idea lol.
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SGT David T.
LCDR (Join to see) - The rank structure would need to be merged. There are some good areas to do that since the Army, Marines, and Air Force have multiple ranks with similar names. So maybe the officer ranks would go Ensign (O-1), Lieutenant(O-2), Captain (O-3), Major (O-4), Commander(O-5), Colonel (O-6). Flag ranks I am unsure of maybe something like Commodore (Always thought this was a cool name for a rank), Major General, Vice Admiral, and General. I know it doesn't follow the current system where all flag ranks have similar names but it's my make believe world so it can follow anything I want lol. Enlisted rank structure is a little more complex due to the Navy's uniqueness so they probably wont get as much love here. Perhaps something like Private (E-1), Private First Class (E-2), Lance Corporal (E-3), Corporal (E-4), Sergeant (E-5), Technical Sergeant (E-6), Gunnery Sergeant (E-7), First Sergeant (E-8), Master Chief (E-9) Yes I intentionally excluded the petty officer part. The warrant officers would follow the current Army and Marine Corps model. If someone has a better idea for a template let's hear it, I just came up with this off the top of my head.
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LCDR (Join to see)
SGT David T. I actually like your proposed officer ranks and it drops all the subranks we've made over the years anyways (1LT, 2LT, LTJG LCDR, LTCOL, etc). I'd say Generals could be Generals and make a Admiral a positional title.
Your enlisted ranks actually work pretty well too. I like it.
Your enlisted ranks actually work pretty well too. I like it.
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SGT David T. - Exactly. So the "Admiral" is one of the General ranks, but holds the position of "Admiral of the 7th fleet" and so forth.
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