What is considered a Nonner? Is it any AFSC that isn't a Maintainer?

MSgt Jon Adams No, I began my career in POL then trained into Intelligence. Specifically, I was a Targeteer. I was deployed for almost a year for DESERT SHIELD/STORM/CALM and then I deployed for every conflict after it until I retired. I got to see some VERY special (NOT) places, and live in some spectacular (NOT) accommodations! Everyone contributes to the mission, including those hard working professionals who never get to deploy to forward locations but without whom, we would not get paid, stay healthy, have our accomplishments correctly tracked and documented, and have facilities to return to that allow us to recover, train, and re-equip, and those who ensure our families are cared for. On the topic of nonners, some of the hardest working professionals I personally encountered in theater were our contracting professionals. These guys and gals went into some of the worst places, severely under gunned and under manned with a LOT of cash on their person in order to make sure all the self proclaimed hard working maintainers had the supplies and equipment to do their jobs, and a place to sleep and three beers a day. A number of contract personnel were killed simply for the cash that they were carrying, but I guess they are nonners too.

Sounds like something a nonner would say.

If the term offends you, you may be one. Nonner is a term short for NON-MAINTENANCE. It has nothing to do with denigrating anyone. However, I’m going to use a part of your insult to us maintainers to break it down. Aircraft maintenance is a 24/7365 operation. If all military actions are intertwined with operations and support Nonners would be open in the evenings for the maintainers that have to sleep all day and work 12-16 on swings or mid shift.

There's one, now! Got a Bronze Star in Iraq for working half a day at Finance without air conditioning.

SSgt Paul Esquibel - Maintainers are always deployed. Our weapons are the aircraft though, not small arms.

Sir, I said hostile area, not all the majority of personnel within MXS will be at a supportive base not directly on the line vs the career fields say Logistics are actually wondering if they are going to make it home, that's difference.

Cops are always deployed too. Except we do outside the wire combat patrols, sit on the wall in towers that are heated in the summer and air conditioned in the winter, in full battle rattle, waiting for the shit to hit the fan and enjoy the "weather" at an ECP.

MSgt Darren VanDerwilt - LOL...In my day I either carried live ammo in a 30 round magazine in a M16, or had one with an attached M203 40mm launcher and 12 rounds of HE in a metal can, a .38, or a M60...and sometimes overseas a 81mm team with a .50 cal. in tow...Call me what you want... I wasn't butt hurt over anything. I was called and I've been called a lot... When push come to shove...you and I were meant to be friends...'cause as your enemy...I could be sorta a monster of a bastard. LOL...

Never heard anything about "not running engines or equipment after hours", but then again, I was in SAC - AGE (our hanger was on the flight line), until I went to Nam.

Sgt Ron Harris - Just about every base I've been to had quiet hours. Folks in base housing didn't want to be disturbed. In Langley, we had to put off Ops checks until 0600, we couldn't run engines between 2300 - 0600.

A1C (Join to see) - We couldn't run engines because it would disturb folks in base housing. If the tower was closed, we coordinated runs through the MOC. We didn't need "airfield systems"

MSgt John Taylor - We pretty much had bombers and tankers, B-52G 7 KC135, coming & going around the clock. Our shop was only 25% manned so we worked 12 + hrs per day. I ran maint. on 2nd shift. Equipment was in and out a good part of the night. We had 2 ORI's during that time & we were happy that we only had to work 12 shifts during that time. I was at Blytheville AFB, AR. We even had our CO fly in one night around midnight with #2 engine on his C-47 flaming

Technically a nonner but SF (cops) are always out there with maintainers. You need Pilot's maintainers and security. If the security was non-essential to the flightline, why have us there? Why go on fly aways? The job is 24/7 as well. I would disagree that cops are technically nonners... We are right there in the suck with you! I WAS POSTED ON THE FLIGHTLINE DURING A TYPOON. We reported to base during a hurricane. I slept in the squadron because there was no physical way to get out to my house and back to work the next day during Snowmaggedon.

So... In short, cops aren't nonners.

TACP and PJs do not generate sorties so...

they are nonners, Badasses, but nonners. The statement has nothing to do with badassery. Just like in the Army, anybody not an 11x is a POG, that doesn't mean they arent Doorkickers and heartbreakers.

SSgt Phil Sigman - But they are usually deployed 10-11 months of the years somewhere. No problem with those badasses.

Flightline supply is generally accepted as sortie producers, and so is AGE.

In the broad scope of everything everyone whether direct or indirect is a sortie producer hence why everyone gets a down day off and not just MXS and direct flight line supportive functions. The term to me has two function it can boost morale among those within direct support of the flight line as a way to deal with the 12hr shifts in below freezing temp, or it can serve as a way insult others that are not apart of that functions affecting overall growth and production within the AF

I embrace it. LOL

You can be a nonner and maintenance. If you have a job that doesn't produce sorties.

Yep. That's how my husband(maintenance) has described to me--pretty anyone who is not flightline. Myself being medical I don't find the term insulting as some people do. We all have busted each other's chops before with different AFSC's.

MSgt Jeffrey Forer - Yep, like my job in the ANG, Maintenance Scheduling.