Posted on Oct 5, 2016
What is the best way to tell your unit that you in no way shape or form want an ETS award from them?
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First off, wow kinda surprised this generated any response at all. I was looking more for a "oh hey, just do this memorandum and it's all done." kind of a deal. Anyways as for context, awards here go through about 15 or more corrections for non-grammatical issues. The award hasn't been written yet and I would probably end up writing it anyways. I just don't want to waste anyone's time or my own for that matter with writing an award that a civilian company cares not a whit about that just going to get kicked back over and over and over. I know what I have done and I honestly don't care much for recognition. I'd rather see some of my Soldiers get credited as they go on to do bigger and better things. Do I also have other motivations for not wanting an award yes because there have been several things that have left a bad taste, but I didn't post this to air my dirty laundry, I was just simply looking for advice. Thanks all for the numerous replies. Most were pretty entertaining, and a few were even helpful.
Edited 9 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 350
When I got out I told my 1SG directly I don't want some ETS award. It wouldn't help me get a career in the civilian world. He argued with me for a while saying it's important to get one. I eventually said fine just to get it over with but when it came time for my last day, it was still in S-1. Ended up not getting one and just shaking hands with the leadership. Lol
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being honored wearing the bluecord is the only thing i cared about recieving.. im proud of it, i dont want medals, there not necessary. i did my job, plain and simple, im just a simple soldier that followed orders that served in the greatest military on earth.
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When I got out I declined my ETS award. I walked in and talked to my CO and 1SG and explained I hated getting awards and did not want one. They knew from previous times I was put in for awards and was pissed and respected my wishes. I am a firm believer in just being upfront, respectful and honest. Always worked in my 10 years in.
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I think that throwing he award in a waste basket is a bit drastic, but I do believe a service member should have the right to refuse an award or medal if he or she sees fit to do so.
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Take the award and move on. Didn't get an ETS award when I was getting out in the early 80's
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I think it is safe to say we have all had good and bad leaders during our time of service. Awards have been given out for the right reasons, and the wrong reasons. But what we all have to agree on is that their is a thing called respect. One thing I had a SFC tell me when I was a private is that you do not have to respect me as a person, but you will respect my rank. I thought about that long, and hard. I would think that as a leader it would mean more to you to have your soldiers respect you as a person then the rank you wear. Job #1 as a Non-Commissioned Officer is accomplishment of my mission, and then the well fare of my soldiers. I believe that is backward because without your soldiers you can not accomplish your mission. Now you are probably asking what does this have to do with receiving an award? I went from E-1 to E-6, and back down to E-4. A lot of my trouble came from not changing with the times. I did not go along, so I did not get along. From E-1 to E-4 your career is defined by what you do. Once you are a leader of soldiers, your career is defined by what your soldiers do. If you are a good leader your soldiers will follow you through the gates of hell, and give their lives for you. If you are a POS leader your soldiers will leave you flapping in the wind. You want your soldiers to see that even though you have issues with the CoC, you still have military bearing. Until you are officially signed out you are still a soldier. I did not need ribbons, medals, awards, certificates, or any recognition for my service. If I deployed and all of my soldiers made it home alive, and not wounded, then that was my award. Because as a leader my soldiers were the most important thing to me. I was responsible for them. Anything the unit gave me, whether earned or not I respectfully accepted and moved on. I made sure that when I was given the floor that I thanked those that made it possible for me to receive this award, that would be those supporting you (your family, and your soldiers). Do not forget that without your subordinates that you are not a leader your are just a soldier.
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Just let them do what they are going to do it. You aren't going stop them no matter what.
SSG MARK FRANZEN
US ARMY VET
SSG MARK FRANZEN
US ARMY VET
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Okay, must be an army thing but wtf is an ETS award back in the corps that meant estimated time of separation or something like that. Doesnt seem like something to get an award for.
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I realize that it may also be a Christian thing like it was for me not wanting to get credit for doing good for others in the command I really did not want the command to go through the trouble, but I later realized that the ceremony was as much about them saying good bye and thank you as it was me thanking all of them, ensure your troops are there when you get it and make sure they know how much that award is one that they all contributed towards and that the memories will always be with you, God speed
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Glad to hear it's not just the AF that wastes so kuch time kicking those things back 100 times for corrections. Lol
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I did 12 Years Active Duty got an ARCOM mailed to me. I then joined the Mi. ARNG served 11 Years got my 20 Year Letter I was the NCOIC of the Bn. Recovery Section. I received nothing when I left the Unit. I did not want it my Soldiers gave me a Plaque it hangs on the wall.
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I just bowed out with as much pride, dignity and grace as possible... save the trashing for when you're out of sight, out of mind.
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I hate how people think that awards and promotions are for the units and families. They are not! They are my achievements and mine alone. That's why I choose to never have formations for myself. Also I don't give a shit about formations!
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You'll spend more time and effort trying to avoid taking the award than you would by just accepting it. I never understood why people try to dodge recognition when the action of trying to dodge it only draws attention and wastes more effort from the 20 people in your chain of command who think they can convince you otherwise and will waste an hour of your time trying.
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The award is not yours alone, it reflects the achievements your troops have accomplished as well. If you had a group of turd warriors, you more than likely would not receive any positive recognition. Be the true soldier that stands tall no matter what has been dealt to them.
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I don't remember whether I answered this before, and I'm not interested in scrolling through 222 responses in order to check, but what's wrong with just getting the award, keeping your mouth shut, then sticking it in a drawer somewhere and forgetting about it?
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