Posted on Mar 3, 2017
SPC Cameron Hale
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So recently I've been flagged for multiple Failures To Report, as a result UCMJ is pending. I have accepted the consequences of my actions and am prepared to face them. I just wanted to know the extent of the article seeing as I'm still in AIT and haven't reported to my first unit yet. (No pun intended between the Failure to report and me not reporting to my unit. The FTR's are to formation) Help?
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SSgt Michael Cox
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What I don't understand is the NCO's in your training unit surely reprimanded you each time you were late. Why would you continue to be late after the first reprimand. My advise is never be late to formation again ever in your career. Also while the paperwork may not follow you to your unit in the Army word of mouth surely will.
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PFC Travis West
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Ok I don't know about this new army, but never in my time in would we leave a guy in his rack. We would have dumped him on the floor. I am thinking the went and put an I in teiam.
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SP5 Ronald R Glaeseman
SP5 Ronald R Glaeseman
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Amen!
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SGT Timothy Price
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I see a lot of Officers and CSM's on here giving great advice but they are not thinking on the same wavelength as you so let me throw a little old man E5 wisdom and see what you think.
First you need to think about why you joined, you are not starting off on the right foot and it can effect how you view the Army from this point on if you are not even out of AIT and you hate it its going to be a long bumpy road. hopefully you joined for all the right reasons , college, patriotism, love, and not getting away from problems at home. now don't get me wrong getting away from problems is sometimes the best medicine so I am not saying its a wrong reason it just leads to intent, by that I mean what is your end goal? looking for a job that will last a lifetime is not a bad thing, but it is hard to know what you feel about it when you have not reached your unit yet.
So here is my advice take what punishment they give you, DO NOT DROP OUT, get your bearings and center yourself, do not be late or a no show again and when you get to your unit be the first guy there and the last to leave at every formation for any reason just be there where they can see that you are first in last out, do everything the SGT's and officers say and do not be lured in by the wild antics of the people who have been there a while by this I mean E4 and below, yes sure make friends that friendship will likely last a lifetime, but don't get crazy and do wild things just to make friends you have a long road ahead friends will come easy enough what you want to do is to make the guys that matter above you say to themselves and each other that you are a good kid and good soldier, you will get messed with grow a thick skin military guys pick on each other it is just part of the job that no one likes eventually you will give as good as you get and that will get em off your back, if they see it bothers you they will double down so look at it like a kind of game where they try to make you mad and do something stupid and you outsmart them you don't do anything stupid and then they are the ones who are being picked on by the people above them.
Anyway all this sounds like a pile of crap to you I am sure but I tell you what when I was 18 I wish someone would have said these things to me and drilled it in good, I lost rank more than I gained my first enlistment, I got out after 4 and went on with my life and years later when 9/11 happened I went back in older and smarter but no rank, know what happens to a 40 year old E4, EVERYONE messes with you and its not easy when you have a family and have to balance doing what is right for them and not let them take your pride, they played my game and I won, I did not let them get the better of me and by the time I was injured by an IED and was medically retired as an E5 I had their respect, do yourself a favor start off on the right foot even if you don't like it do what you signed on for and go your own way you never know if you may be called to service again later in life and if you do you will have a dam good foundation to restart on
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SGT Timothy Price HOOAH for going back in and serving in wartime!
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Cpl Mark A. Morris
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I hope you make it through this situation you created. You are too young to screw up the rest of your life.
If you do not get thrown out, never be late again. Start making yourself part of the solution. Volunteer for shit jobs. You earned it. (Is there anything I can do, or help with Sgt., or SSG, or GySgt? I'm sorry I was late and I will never do it again.)
I hope they give you a shot to correct yourself. You seem like a good kid. But, it is time to grow up. Everyone else has to.
M. Morris RVT
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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Thank you Cpl.
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You are writing a question to a bunch of professionals who have had their very lives depend on people showing up at the right place, at the right time, in the right uniform. You are admitting you have apparently failed to do this multiple times and you are still in training. The path you are on, regardless of the NJP is one that very well could lead to your own death or the death of your comrades. You need to stand in front of the mirror and ask yourself if you have what it takes to do this before that unfortunate set of events happens. I find it incredulous that you are not writing about how to get an NCO's boot out of your ass. Sorry to sound so harsh but this is not a game. Somebody is going to have to share a foxhole with you some night and depend on you. If you cannot cut it in training, you cannot imagine how tough it is out in the real world. Guess I am being an asshole. Sorry guys.
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SPC Specialst
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I am curious how you could be FTR while in AIT. But nonetheless, wake up earlier than you think you normally should. I'd say, 30 minutes earlier. Get ready for PT, shot and shave and even get your uniform go the day ready. And always make sure to be 15 minutes prior to formation.
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SPC Mackenzie Goodrich
SPC Mackenzie Goodrich
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Thats what I was thinking. You get woken up. Or if you don't there is a giant noise from all the others waking up at the exact same moment. You move all as a unit. Getting lost in that sauce seems very difficult
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SSG Mark Franzen
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SO WHAT DO PLAN MAKING THE MILTARY A CAREER IF SO YOUR STARTING OFF REALLY BAD. YOU NEED TO WORK ON BEING BEST AND LET ME TELL YOU I NEVER IN 16.5 YEARS GOT ANT ART 15 AND I VERY PROUD OF YOU PREPARE TO FACE IT SO NOW YOU NEED TO APPLIE YOURSELF AND DON'T LOOK BACK AND LOOK FORWARD ON HOW YOU CAN MAKE IT BETTER FOR YOURSELF.
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SFC Derrick Hardison
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As a former Senior NCO in the Army, I will say this to you. Good on your part for seeking guidance from others in this forum with much military knowledge and life experience. Take this experience and learn from it and don't make the same mistakes when you get to your active duty unit. Your squad leader, platoon sergeant and 1SG are not going to cut you any slack and will keep riding you until you either do the right thing or get out of the Army and stop wasting everyone's time when you're not serious about being in. The Army is not a free pay check every two weeks. You have to put in the time and effort and do whats asked of you to succeed. You just might find that the Army is just what you have been needing in your life. Listen to your seniors and learn as much as you can. Quit worrying about "finding a partner that can sham without getting caught!" You will have plenty of time to sham when the time is right, and you will have plenty of time to act like a Soldier as well. Learn some responsibility, learn to have your batttles back in any situation and learn some respect while youre in. If you take your career seriously, it can be rewarding in many ways. There will always be times when things look bleak and you question yourself as to why youre still there, but the good often outweighs the bad. Make life easier on yourself and your first line supervisor and do the right thing. Life will be much better for you if you do
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UCMJ action can be a career killer, depending on the type. There is not a leader out there that wants to chapter a soldier. In AIT, a summarized or a company grade article is most likely. Anyone can say they will do better, but your actions will speak louder than your words. Take this UCMJ action as a wake-up call to better yourself. Set multiple alarms for yourself and ask a battle buddy to help you out. You are serving with some of the best leaders in the army and are part of that 1% if that is not motivating enough then the army is not the right job.
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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Yes Sergeant
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SGT David T.
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Welcome to the few, the proud, the busted club. I too was a member, and was an E-2 come to think of it lol. As you are still in TRADOC, I am not sure if they follow you or not, they never used to. One of the folks still in can chime in on that.

I would avoid bringing it up when you get to your first unit. You want them to judge you on your performance there and not baggage you bring from AIT. So accept the punishment (which you have), learn from it, and use it as a character building experience. Despite me getting an Article 15 as a Private, I still went on to be a NCO and had a good career before I got out (ETS, not booted lol). It sucks, but most other jobs would just fire you and be done with it. So there is an up side to it.
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SGT David T.
SGT David T.
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SPC Cameron Hale - Hey now, don't demote me lol. I am just David now and earned that rank lol.
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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SGT David T. - Definitely man! Thanks David. It's weird to call people by their first names.
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SGT David T.
SGT David T.
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SPC Cameron Hale - It took a while for me to get used to it. For me it's really strange when someone uses my old rank. I am an Army civilian employee and unless it is a SES (our equivalent of a General Officer) it is all first name basis. Although I do still have to take effort not to salute our commander lol.
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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That's awesome.SGT David T. -
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