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SPC Cameron Hale
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So recently I've been flagged for multiple Failures To Report, as a result UCMJ is pending. I have accepted the consequences of my actions and am prepared to face them. I just wanted to know the extent of the article seeing as I'm still in AIT and haven't reported to my first unit yet. (No pun intended between the Failure to report and me not reporting to my unit. The FTR's are to formation) Help?
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Sgt Michael Swigert
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Speaking from the standpoint of a sergeant, I would say man up accept your punishment, except that you've done something wrong, and move on and try not to do it anymore. Or you are going to screw things up and get kicked out
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SPC Roger D. Pemberton Jr.
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The following are all maximums. The best advice you have received thus far though is to learn to conform. No one made you enlist you chose to. With that you need to keep your end of the deal to succeed and come out on the other side better than when you started.

1. Summarized. Any company grade commander may administer this type of Article 15. Soldiers who are read a summarized Article 15 are not entitled to consult with a defense attorney. They may, turn down the summarized Article 15 and demand trial by court-martial; but, normally this is not a good idea! The maximum punishment authorized at a summarized Article 15 is any combination of:

a. extra duty for 14 days
b. restriction for 14 days
c. oral reprimand or admonition

2. Company Grade. Any company grade commander may administer this type of Article 15. The maximum punishment authorized at a company grade Article 15 is any combination of:

a. extra duty for 14 days
b. restriction for 14 days
c. oral reprimand or admonition
d. forfeiture of seven days base pay
e. reduction in rank of one grade (E-4 & below only)

3. Field Grade. A commander in the rank of major or above may administer this type of Article 15. The maximum punishment authorized at a field grade Article 15 is:

a. extra duty for 45 days
b. restriction for 60 days (maximum of 45 days if combined with extra duty)
c. oral reprimand or admonition
d. forfeiture of one-half base pay per month for two months
e. reduction in rank to E-1 (E-4 and below) or reduction in rank of one grade (E-5 & E-6 only)
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Sgt John Ervin
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that is 100% correct. Typically first offense is extra duty for 14 days/restriction for 14 days. I ended up with that for my first one... For the second one I got 30 days in correctional custody... I seriously do not remember getting 2, but the first one showed up in my service records - as orally administered, the second one never showed up and was removed when I returned stateside... and I ended up with a good conduct medal.
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CSM Andrew Perrault
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Sounds like you have a lack of motivation.......You need some old school NJP like ruck marching to get you motivated. Get your head out your A$$ and get an alarm clock or have a buddy wake your A$$ up, before you find yourself on the street......
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SSG Derick Walker
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To find out the extent of punishment, I advise all Soldiers to read the Article that you are being punished under. In each article it states the extent of the punishment allowed under Article 15. Many times Soldiers look for someone else to give advice when the answer is in black and white. Not reading sometimes allow over reach of punishment.
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SFC Bill Snyder
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Bvk in my younger days (50's) an Art15 stayed in the Company. When you were transferred, the page was pulled and destroyed and did not accompany you to your next duty station. My CO gave me my pages when I transfered and a wish for a Goo Career. Wonderful CO.
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SP5 Ronald R Glaeseman
SP5 Ronald R Glaeseman
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That is my understanding as well. I received an Article 15. Although I was discharged before being assigned to a different company, a notation of the event did not occur on my DD 214.
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1stSgt Mack Housman
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It's difficult to say. Depends on several variables. It could be anything from extra duties, loss of pay all the way to a discharge. You need to decide if you want to be in the military or not! If they can't count on you to show up for formation, how can they count on you in battle?
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SPC Mackenzie Goodrich
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What I dont get its, how that happens during AIT of all places.
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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Seriously
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SSG Don Bowes
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Show up on time to formation, if you cant do the easy stuff you may want to consider another line of work!
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CW2 Randy Whitten
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PFC Hale - I have just a couple things to say here as everyone has pretty much covered it for you. As a Drill that trained Privates such as yourself to be where you are supposed to be when told for almost two years (Seen this many times) - I ask you to WAKE the HELL Soldier up and make it to formation. It is not that damn difficult. As a Drill, I was up at 3:30 every morning for over two years and was to bed around midnight every night. The military is not a Social butterfly organization for you to lollygag your way to your appointed duty assignment (Formation). Now the next order of business is - You need to ask yourself - DO You want to be apart of an organization that will give you a life time of memories ? If So, then correct your action and accept the UCMJ actions, You might loose a rank and some cash, but if you get it together within a year, you can work to have it back. Now my parting note. What I ask of you is that - One day you could look back on this incident as an immature act that you have learned from and have an excellent career before you. Do the right thing here so that you don't cost someone's life down the road especially if you are ever sent to a conflict or a war zone. Being where you are when you are told to be is crucial to ensuring that the safety of fellow service members get to come home and be with their families, just like you want to be. But if you feel that you can not commit to any of this then talk to your commander about getting out as there will be someone that will want to be in the military and can be on time where they are supposed to be.
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SFC Intelligence Analyst
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How do you fail to show up for multiple formations in AIT? Smh.
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SPC Cameron Hale
SPC Cameron Hale
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Way back then I was a hold over. Could not go anywhere or do anything. Kind of lost motivation. I'm at my unit and doing great now though Sergeant!
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