Posted on Feb 12, 2016
What is the hardest part about transitioning into the civilian life? Personally I'm scared and excited all at once.
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SMSgt Tom Clater
I was fortunate to work around civil service the last couple of years of my career, I got used to it before I retired.
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I had two problems:
1.) Listening to someone say "that's not in my job description." Until the regional director told me that this was not grounds to discontinue a professional relationship, I had sent three guys to the unemployment lines.
2.) Trusting you buddy. Sure, there are plenty of Blue Falcons in the ranks. But, trust me: There are flocks of Blue Falcons in the civilian world. Learn who you can trust. Chances are pretty good they're a fellow vet.
1.) Listening to someone say "that's not in my job description." Until the regional director told me that this was not grounds to discontinue a professional relationship, I had sent three guys to the unemployment lines.
2.) Trusting you buddy. Sure, there are plenty of Blue Falcons in the ranks. But, trust me: There are flocks of Blue Falcons in the civilian world. Learn who you can trust. Chances are pretty good they're a fellow vet.
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Be very carful how you verbally communicate with civilians in the work place. Especially if you are a supervisor. They are "soft" with their feelings.
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I think the hardest part for me was getting to know who Paul was. I knew who 1SG DeStout was but I hadn't been Paul since high school.
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SSG Dwight Amey MSA, MSL, BS, AS
1SG Paul DeStout, this is a good point. I had to go back home and reconnect with my father that helped me realize who I was before I graduated high school. I also am still getting help once a week to develop who I was and get on with living again outside of the security backing of the military lifestyle and pay.
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Once you get a job you will be too busy to worry about the rest. Getting a job is the biggie.
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The hardest part for me was just learning what to expect from professional work relationships and understanding the new things that come with being a civilian: private healthcare, company benefits, civilian retirement plans, etc. It can be overwhelming, but ask lots of questions and don't feel like you're being a burden. I'm usually straightforward with most folks..."I apologize, I've never dealt with this on active duty so I'm still getting up to speed. Do you mind reviewing this with me?" This has never been met with a negative response and I think most people appreciate you being direct and not hiding your lack of knowledge. Interviews are a slightly different situation, and you should handle those with a high level of confidence while still remaining honest with yourself. The main thing to keep in mind is to find some time to really reflect on what you're passionate about outside the military. This will keep you from jumping into a career that you really don't want. Wishing you the very best on this next big step!
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Vikki Nicometo
A big YES to this: The main thing to keep in mind is to find some time to really reflect on what you're passionate about outside the military. This will keep you from jumping into a career that you really don't want. Wishing you the very best on this next big step!
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For me the hardest part is having to deal with civilians. They do not operate the same as military members. They have different agendas and in my experience have no honor. It's dog eat dog and there's little team work if any.
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SSG Dwight Amey MSA, MSL, BS, AS
SSG(P) Joshua DeGraw, the dog eat dog is an understatement. It is incredible. In some work environments honor is a weakness that others will use against you.
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"Culture Shock."
We all experienced it when we joined. But it was controlled through the Entry Process. They took a civilian and changed them into a Service Member. When you get out, there is no "Process." One day you are a Soldier, and the next you are a Veteran, which will never quite be a "Civilian" again.
I describe it as being a "Foreigner in our own land."
The military provides "structure" to almost every aspect of our lives. Schedules, vacations, pay, everything. Getting out... little things like having more than one "boss" will drive you nuts. Especially at first.
We all experienced it when we joined. But it was controlled through the Entry Process. They took a civilian and changed them into a Service Member. When you get out, there is no "Process." One day you are a Soldier, and the next you are a Veteran, which will never quite be a "Civilian" again.
I describe it as being a "Foreigner in our own land."
The military provides "structure" to almost every aspect of our lives. Schedules, vacations, pay, everything. Getting out... little things like having more than one "boss" will drive you nuts. Especially at first.
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