What is the most appropriate way to address someone being given a false PT score, while minimizing the damage to their career?

If she failed the PT just retake it, she just took a diagnostic pt test not the record test which is yearly she has the time to trained up. The diagnostic test can not reflect badly as it is a test to gadge where a soldiers physical training in getting ready for the PT Test. Tell the soldier to put her head down and Trained. It’s nothing to tell most soldier don’t report to there next duty station ready to pass the PT Test. I did but I wouldn’t max it like I would want

Nothing, sick it up buttercup.

More info is needed was she a consistent high 200s? Was she stationed on the coast and moved Carson for example. Elevation changes messed me up for a few months.

This isn’t the first bloated PT score and it won’t be the last. The vast majority of soldiers have benefitted from an easy monitor or a downhill running course at some point in their careers. It’s a break that falls into the laps of good troops. I think there are two problems here. One is the complete fudgery of what should have been a failure and a soldier’s complete involvement in it either during or after the fact. There is no benefit of the doubt. The troop didn’t get a 275 on the diagnostic and caught a break based on discretion...someone grossly fudged the record. My real issue is with the desire to protect careers. Who cares? Multiple soldiers are lying to further their careers. These are not honest mistakes. Heads should roll as an example that nothing is given or taken unearned.

1. My $.02, if anyone knowingly gives/accepts false grades- then they should not be an NCO in the 1st place. 2. She has a moral dilemma and what a transfer- it becomes long distance hearsay. 3. Since she failed a diagnostic PT test- it may invalidate her promotion., and cancel her orders. She better damn will pass the next one with flying colors- or they might try to chapter her.

Company grade Article 15 or worse. The higher the rank, the harsher the punishment. Officers should be relieved for cause.

Now everyone is worried about their career..? Not when they were lying, or found out there was falsified documents? I don't personally care what happens to any of them, as long as they aren't put into a position where they have to lead soldiers.

Where were y'all during the Army Values classes in basic?

Command Inquiry

Well, first off, what are all these "points" for promotion? Dang. I look around now as the sailors (and others) get ready for promotions and know I would never have made it above E-4 if I had had to do all that stuff.

As I always said about PT. I can run from the torpedo room to shaft alley with a EAB (emergency air breathing) mask on. About 300 feet. Where, on a submarine, would I ever run further than that? Give PT that resembles the job.

So all you grunts, do a 20 mile hike with your full gear, dig a fox hole, and shoot the "enemy", set up a tent, eat an MRE, and then hike back. You have 2 hours. GO! :)

I picked up on one thing here, she got transferred. This tells me probably WHY her score was faked. They wanted to transfer her out but couldn't if she had a bad score. This actually happens a lot. Not necessarily with PT but with evals being written to be able to transfer a person. I learned this when I first made LPO. I had a total derelict sailor under me. So I wrote his evals to reflect that. I was taken in by a person of rank I will not name but was way above me and told to change the eval to a "good" one. I did so. When he got his transfer I was told NOW you write the eval as his transfer eval. Yeh. Got stopped by a Chief while walking along the pier and he just blew a gasket at me about lying etc on an eval. But it happens. Funny thing was that the same people who were behind this used to say "we don't pass our problems off to others".

So I'm betting they wanted to transfer her and made sure it happened.

What can she do? Fess up if she knew about the fake score. Or lie. And never stop lying. That gets tuff.

pass with a 300
or suck up her NCO failed her...hopefully it wasn't done solely by her.

If she was unaware of the falsification, bad on her for not paying attention to her packet, shows unprepared to assume a leadership role. If she WAS aware, UCMJ for falsefing official records, real bad on her. If the first, teachable moment. delay in promotion for more seasoning, move out. the second, no help for her on this, take the pain of whatever comes down.

She needs to stand up get on the horn and tell her COC about what went on everything. Tell the story and ask for forgiveness learn from the mistake and move on.

To be blunt, who is she screwing? That will answer a lot of questions.