What is the most appropriate way to address someone being given a false PT score, while minimizing the damage to their career?

It's been a year since this question was posted; So what steps did you take to remedy the "questionable" PT score?

Okay to much missing information. How do you know her APFT was falsified? then lets move forward from that.

If you're going to cheat on your APFT, and we all know it happens way more often than many would like to admit, why the hell would you give yourself a 300? Sounds like this soldier is just a really terrible decision maker.

I believe there are two issues associated with this current situation.
1. The NCO that indirectly or directly scored the soldier.
2. The Soldier associated with the PT-Test.
The soldier in question from the information provided was given a diagnostic PT-Test for which that soldier (Failed) prior to this, the soldier in question had scored a (300) maximum score on the associated PT-Test as prior to this documents have indicated
Proving the fact that the soldier's Pt-Test was either changed or incorrectly score will be difficult unless the soldier or the NCO scoring or that changed the results admits to the incident ( which by all accounts will not happen)

The soldier that Failed to perform and meet the Minimum required score to receive a passing score should be counseled for the failure, the company commanders, or the Bn directive should be followed as to how Pt test failures are handled.

The NCO associated with the PT-test in question should also be Counseled with regards possible integrity and action unbecoming of a Non-Commisioned Officer, this could be a direct reflection listed and associated with that NCO's NCO'er, the NCO Should also be advised that these allegations are taken seriously and any continued action of this nature will result in corrective action up to and including action under UCMJ. ( this is still suspect to the fact of did or didn't they change or improperly score the test, but the soldier should still be Counseled )

All personnel within the company Training and testing section should also be Counseled as well, and thereafter all personnel selected to conduct and score associated testing should be counseled, in regard to the expectation of the testing area selected required and required performance standard, this will ensure that all personnel have been shown what is acceptable and what is not acceptable as related to the proper scoring, integrity and proper conduct becoming of an NCO.

Excuse me? You are a CPL in the US Army. That means that someone, somewhere saw something in you that they liked enough to laterally promote you into a leadership position. Being a leader means you do what is RIGHT, not what is least damaging. If there is a cancer you treat it or excise it before it brings down the whole unit.

From what you have recounted this soldier, that is up for promotion, took a score that was not earned and there is no way, NO WAY, that they did not know they did not earn it. Zero. Every APFT taker has off times and does not perform to their best. EVERY SINGLE ONE. A variation up or down is to be expected. Off tests are going to happen as are tests that are up.

You as a a junior NCO have a DUTY, an OBLIGATION to the Unit, the ARMY and to yourself to take this to your command as clearly this person LACKED the integrity to do so on their own. That person does not belong in a position of leadership and needs further counseling on the morals, ethics and code to BE a leader of soldiers. This person is about to be pinned and placed into a position to lead and influence others that are coming up in ranks behind them. Their behaviour thus far is NOT something one wants to see fostered in the military in any MOS, anywhere.

Refer up the chain, and it ll probably end up with JAG. Since it s a confidential personnel matter, the prudent thing to do is alert the responsible superior, make a memo for the record your self that you documented it as soon as you beceme aware of it, and let those with knowledge of the law and UCMJ figure out the appropriate response. Truly echelons above your pay grade. After documenting it, say nothing about it except to cooperate with the authorities you had to report it to. Don t make two messes to clean up. My personal reaction is that a faked score is unfair to all the soldiers who did what they were supposed to do, and passed, and that a slot would be filled by someone who 1) is depriving a deserving soldier of a promotion and worse 2) is creating dissention in the ranks because it s quite likely that everyone knows that a faked score is not deserved, and it creates tension and disrespect for the commander, whether ot not the commanding officer officially knew about it. The PT test is the way it is for a very important reason--you need to rely on fellow soldiers when the rounds go live.

A trash PT score can come back to haunt you in a combat zone. Dead weight can get a soldier killed, and the less he has to carry, the better his chances of survival.

Falsifying official forms, which a PT scorecard is an official document, is punishable under the UCMJ. Both people are party the grader and the soldier. However failing a diagnostic PT test is not itself punishable, administer a record PT and deal with the results in a professional manner. If the person asking the question knows for a fact and says nothing then they are complicit in a conspiracy, that’s just how it works; either report it because the situation is wrong, or keep your mouth shut because you are not a person of integrity or personal courage; the Army values do actually mean something.

What is the chance of her taking another test before she is pinned and passing it?
Never mind, I just saw this post is over a year old. This has been overcome by events.

If i may this isnt the only one i have seen several people be passed this way to get the next rank. There are many people who are screwed because the people giving the apft are lie i have seen it happen many times. I also believe she does need to have a real apft and needs to be reevaluated

Sounds like somebody had a happy ending and decided it was worth a 300pt score. "aaaaahhhhh! I've never had that before. That was amazing. That a 300 in my book."

No place in the NCO corps for the person who pencil whipped it or her if she knew it was pencil whipped. Hard to believe she doesn’t

I have seen a LTC kicked out of the army for fusing a PT score and then tried to use it to be pinned full bird whIle in a combat Zone, in my years in the army I have seen a large drop of integerity, honest, selflessness in both the NCO and Officers ranks, when I returned home from the middle east and I found it very hard to maintain the standard due to injury received over seas I dropped my retirement papers, I would not ask my subordinate and peers to keep a standard I could not, lead from the front and never ask of soldiers some thing that you are not able to or willing to do.

To be serious, this is clearly a POG we're talking about and I'll say the same thing to you as I did one of my POG friends; You can be the best dental technician in the world, but if you can't do the right amount of pushups your career is going nowhere.

Unless it becomes evident false pt scores are being used as a form a favortism, I would assist in the cover up until the person got their score up.

Talk to your first sgt or plt sgt. Depending on where your foxhole is.

What's done above your pay you can't control, let your leadership do that. You didn't commit or covert the act. Yoy didn't dio anything. . If they try charging you hey Ann attorney.

She has an integrity problem. She does not deserve becoming and NCO. If one has unquestionable evidence that her supervisor lied for her to get her promoted, I say confront this person. Give them a chance to demonstrate and apply the leadership skills they’ve learned. If the soldier refuses, do the Army, the NCO Corps and the soldiers who will serve under this person a favor. Get rid of this dead weight.

I had a company who pencil whipped so many pt scores for some E6 and most E7 and above including officers. Somehow the fat pieces of shit that failed the alternate aerobic exercise (the walk) still got a 280 or higher. I'm sorry I was a Walker too and they failed by every and any standard. When it takes 45 min to do 2.5 miles you failed.

In reference to your question, either she needs to come clean or work her ass off to get a 270 or higher on the next pt test to say the diag was just a fluke

I saw this way to much while in. Fat females with e5 and e6 rank. There is no way possible they failed hight and weight. But somehow passed tape tests...

They could never pass PT tests. Yet had rank.

Falsifying any information to be promoted is pathetic. And the fact that the issue is trying to be covered up is even more so. In my opion, the answer to your question is to decline the promotion, and make an apft oriented fitness plan so that she can live up to the standards that an NCO is. This in itself is poor leadership trying to promote someone because they favor a person over any characteristics of merit or true leadership. Soon enough she will promote and then lead her soldiers and promote her soldiers the same way she was lead and promoted.

Is it assumed that the previous was pencil whipped because she failed this one? Did she recently pcs and take a lot of leave? Was the new apft her first one at her new unit?