Posted on Mar 31, 2016
What is the proper way to handle soldiers (junior enlisted) addressing each other as Sergeant Major?
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Is there a regulation addressing this or is it just something the old school soldiers would never dream of doing, and the new school soldiers just do whatever they want?
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Don't be silly just let an old sergeant deal with then you would be surprised how imaginative they can be!!
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SSG (Join to see) Checking back to see if you have seen this to be still a problem in yr area or have observed it. Do you have any success when you put a lid on it??
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SGT Collins the way to handle your situation is to first address the situation directly with the Soldier/ Soldiers, then counseling along with the regulations in ref to good order and discipline. You can also use the military manual of Courts Martial's to show them where they are wrong, and then if that does not work request a meeting with your Sergeant Major and let him explain it to them. If that does not work then use the counseling you did prior and charge them under the Uniformed Code of Military Justice, but let the lawyers decide what the charge would be, not you, do not ever put the charge on a counseling form, because if the lawyer say's it falls under something else you will lose because you stated in writing what you were going to charge them under, and your not a lawyer. I hope this helps.
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SGM John Gibeau
I would want to know what the context is. If they are just junior enlisted screwing around, maybe performing a parody of the SGM, (Everyone of us had some personality trait, or mannerism that the junior soldiers found amusing) and it was not done out of disrespect, I wouldn't pay too much attention to it. Things like this I never felt warranted punishment, and especially anything that might discourage a soldier from considering the Army as a career. I was always saddened by units that spent a lot of time putting the screws to younger soldiers, thinking that punishment for small and minor offenses was the best route, when something so petty could easily cheat the service of what might have been a very fine NCO one day.
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People in my unit do this all the time, even after being corrected on it by the company 1SG. I personally hate it and consider it childish and insanely idiotic
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Tell them to stop, tell them why. Why is this a problem? If you do not approve of the behavior and you let it continue the will be calling each other chief next week. That crosses the line and must stop immediately.
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If someone disrespected me in uniform you can bet I would have said something. Snap too butt hole!!! Come on someone needs to grow a pair.
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I know that myself and others have called a lower enlisted "Sergeant Major" if they acted like they owned everything. It was never a term of endearment.
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Wall to wall.... Er.. Well, I guess you could pull them aside and go Big Sarge on them. In all honesty, have to fix it now, don't let it fester.
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Yes, there is an army regulation that dictates what your rank will be called, AR 600-20 Table 1–1. It states "title of address". So although they aren't physically impersonating a SGM, they are going against regulation. That and if someone hears them doing this... Its a no-no on in many facets.
Hope this helps?
Hope this helps?
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SSG (Join to see) I've heard thousands of times Private Major (from PVT to PFC) or Full Bird Private for SPC but never Sergeant Major.
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I believe it's in AR 600-20, if they haven't done away with that regulation. It's the same regulation that covers Assumption of Command.
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