Posted on Aug 28, 2015
What is the real reason a Buck SGT is so angry?
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I do not agree with the people that think it is that the buck SGT is going through a steep learning curve. Most buck SGTs have had a position as a team leader or squad leader berfore being promoted.
I have a different theory. I believe it is a way to break away from being a part of the sham shield club. Once being a buddy with all, and suddenly you have to find people to do details for you, not just hiding from them. It is truly another side in many ways. You still have all your friends that are Spec4's and now you are the one that has to be the bearer of bad news... "Hey guys, we have to empty that connex again!"
I have a different theory. I believe it is a way to break away from being a part of the sham shield club. Once being a buddy with all, and suddenly you have to find people to do details for you, not just hiding from them. It is truly another side in many ways. You still have all your friends that are Spec4's and now you are the one that has to be the bearer of bad news... "Hey guys, we have to empty that connex again!"
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Learning leadership is why. It's frustrating trying to get people to do things but don't have the experience to properly motivate them to get it done. That's why they are always yelling. As for lazy, there should be no such thing. If I have a lazy SGT he will be meeting me with a pt belt and a 2 qt. There's no room for a lazy team leader.
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SPC James Burkett II
MSG (Join to see) I understand where your coming from. I'm the Squad Leader with a PFC Team Leader and a SGT for a Section Sargent so I guess I just see it as Humor cause I watch the new SGTs in other sections of my platoon lost trying to be all big and bad and being to proud to ask a SPC or a PFC for help on how to do their new position.
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SGT Christopher Hamman
I went to Ft. hood ONCE for AT. That was MORE than enough! *Shiver* And I was still learning how to be a Sergeant when my enlistment ended. I had some excellent NCO-role-models though. And a few examples of how NOT to do it.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
SGT Sean Wike - Happens to a lot of MAJs, LTCs, and COLs as well! It's not about the rank, I don't think, I think it's about adjusting to a new level of responsibility and the expectations that come with it.
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Because the SGT is no longer able to skip out on details. They cant sham anymore. They actually have to be responsible and accountable. And, when details are handed out, they get issued most since all of the SSG and SFC will be "stuck in meetings."
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MSG (Join to see)
SGT Sean Wike - Well, I could tell you the truth, but I have been sworn to secrecy. You will discover the "light" when you become a PSG.
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He's angry because now he is in charge of the lazy ass Specialists and below that he used to run with. Now he has to take hold of that responsibility and try to get those he was on the same level with to respect his new authority not think that "hey, we were buds when you were a 4 now you got your 5 I know you gonna look out for me, right sarge?"
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SPC James Burkett II
SGT Timothy Rocheleau SO he is mad cause he aint a lazy ass SPC anymore is what your saying lol.
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I wouldn't say that every newly promoted SGT is angry or lazy. I would say for most, the transition from E4 to E5 is rough. More often than not, once promoted, not only is the new NCO trying to figure out his/her new role but more often than not, he/she is trying to do so in a new team because the command team doesn't want him/her trying to lead the same E3s and E4s that they came up in the ranks. It can all also be frustrating to try and find answers from senior NCOs only to be told to find the answer for yourself. Again, this transition is not easy at all.
Now I would say some become lazy. Some might feel as though they are above details and things like that. However, I encourage young leaders to stay involved. This is where you will form a lot of your leadership skills and earn the respect of the junior enlisted.
Now I would say some become lazy. Some might feel as though they are above details and things like that. However, I encourage young leaders to stay involved. This is where you will form a lot of your leadership skills and earn the respect of the junior enlisted.
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SPC James Burkett II
SGT Ben Keen I wouldn't never say every new SGT either it's Buck SGT is like Sham Shield not every SPC shames but after a few all of us got the title.
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He remembers all the flack he gave the Buck SGT from E-1 and now he has 20-40 going to do the same to him.
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-just got promoted this week-
Its not tha we're mad. Its that we have to break the pattern of familiarity to achieve results and to change the way the younger enlisted soldiers view you.
Personal thought though.
Its not tha we're mad. Its that we have to break the pattern of familiarity to achieve results and to change the way the younger enlisted soldiers view you.
Personal thought though.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
CPT (Join to see) Congratulations n Best Wishes. CYA and drive on!
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They have a bigger responsibility now and they know that their brains are going to be racked with lower enlisted stuff.
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SPC James Burkett II
CPT Aaron Kletzing I'm glad I made someone laugh alot of people are taking it to serious missing the fact it was posted under humor. Joke about the E-4 Mafia talk about a Buck SGT and it get personal lol.
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