Posted on Feb 14, 2015
What is the significance of a reflective PT Belt? Is it a sign of risk aversion? Who really wore these in a combat zone?
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We have all seen them. Some other things to consider. What do other branches think? I never belonged to a unit that wore them in a combat zone; the units that did wear them in combat seemed to also suffer from poor leadership, morale, and compentance (not individual but as a team).
Where would we be without these reflective belt over our camo?
Survey is who worn them in a comabt zone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmcBBwnjo5U
We have all seen them. Some other things to consider. What do other branches think? I never belonged to a unit that wore them in a combat zone; the units that did wear them in combat seemed to also suffer from poor leadership, morale, and compentance (not individual but as a team).
Where would we be without these reflective belt over our camo?
Survey is who worn them in a comabt zone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmcBBwnjo5U
Edited 11 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
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FOB Sykes Iraq...2009-2010.
The "policy" was you wore your reflective belt on the FOB. Not sure if it saved my life or not, but I did not get run over by a tank during that tour...
The "policy" was you wore your reflective belt on the FOB. Not sure if it saved my life or not, but I did not get run over by a tank during that tour...
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LTC (Join to see)
Not being disrespectful but no deaths on FOB Marez during the surge from vehicle traffic. Ground guides near high foot traffic areas worked great. I ran the whole FOB every other day and rode my bike everyday. Never had a close call because I paid close attention to traffic.
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1SG Steven Stankovich
Roger that sir. The policy was that you wore your belt. No worries. Policy is policy. I've been in our Army for a long time and I have not been consulted on a great many policies that are currently in place. That doesn't matter to me though. I enforce policy. That's what we do. ;)
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SSG Jason Penn
Thank God for the CSMs standing outside the dining facilities on FOB Kalsu to ensre that everyone eating, regardless of time of day or night were well protected by enforcing the MNCI policy of wearing a reflective belt while in PT uniform in the DFAC. Needless to say, not a single service member was run over by a car while in the DFAC!
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I wore mine down-range when I went running on our dimly-lit roads at dawn. Did it keep me safer? I dunno, but at least I'm here to write about it.
When we arrived in country, a rumor went around through PNN (Privates News Network) that the reason we were required to wear PT belts is that some poor joe was killed in Iraq after being run over in the dark. While any of us would be willing to die for our country by IED or mortar, frigging NO ONE wants to die by being run over by a jingle truck.
When we arrived in country, a rumor went around through PNN (Privates News Network) that the reason we were required to wear PT belts is that some poor joe was killed in Iraq after being run over in the dark. While any of us would be willing to die for our country by IED or mortar, frigging NO ONE wants to die by being run over by a jingle truck.
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SPC (Join to see)
I haven't deployed but during AT we had to wear them in the motor pool when moving Bradley's around... after 48hs of little to no sleep, I was thinking about being run over lol
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MAJ (Join to see)
We had a running track (around the flight line). No trucks allowed, so no risk of being run over. Never had to wear a reflective belt there, thank goodness.
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It was mandatory! I understand that when MRAP's drive by they create dust and brown out effects, but there for don't walk in traffic, or don't run in front of one. especially at night!
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LTC (Join to see)
Yes not walking in front of heavy vehicles and any vhecile has been scientifically proven to be healthier than just walking.
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We had to wear it because it was a mass punishment from the BC. The punishment started before I got there. We had to wear it 24/7. If you were in Leatherneck recently, you know how well lit most of the areas were. OH! I miss the cook house on the Bastion side.
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So there was passing through on my home to my new born daught when the C130 I was taking to Kuwait. When a sand storm forced us to divert. I decided to hang with Aircrew so I wouldn't miss the flight later. Wjen we went to the DFAC we weren't allowed in because we didn't have reflective belts. A load master laughed and was locked up by a Senior NCO and told he didn't have the right because he was a POG. At this point became unglued and jumped of the group. I said "At ease Sergeant, are you an 11 series" he said "no sir! Shy". I said "do you even know what a POG is, it is People Otherthan Grunts, and Grunts don't wear reflective belts in combat". Then I got locked up by a guy in PTs and told me not to call his guys POGs. I let him know with all do respect I didn't start this. Then a pilot O-6 walked up coined me and he told the guy in PTs he have two Airmen retrieve to go chow around back. So when I think of reflective belts I think of drama and that awesome coin I lost.
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LTC (Join to see) This comment is not directed to you. I find it sad when people have to rely on their rank instead of truth, common sense, or logic.
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SFC Wilson Fung I agree and I add it is this kind of thinking that has kept Afghanistan in the stone age. Battle of the Grey Beards.
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LTC (Join to see) - I hate when people refuse to take care of the troops because of stupid stuff like this. You wanna piss and moan about a lack of a PT belt? Fine, do it as you're scooping that unflavored crap that they call "mess chow" (not a combat vet, so we don't get the good food...LOL). But don't turn one of my troops away without having a viable option at the ready. If they choke on a piece of chicken because they didn't have the PT belt on, then I'll stand before the BC and confess my sins.
v/r,
CPT Butler
v/r,
CPT Butler
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It's too bad the military can't just issue common sense instead of requiring ridiculous reflective belts or vests. It's too easy... First example: Look left. Look right. Is there a car coming? No? Good to go. Yes? Wait till it passes. Good to go. Second example: Massive machinery operating in low illumination areas around the FOB... Walk well around the machine... Good to go. Civilians manage to survive the terrifying streets of suburbia every day, I think Soldiers could someday, maybe, be trusted to do the same.
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Wore them in Iraq. Always felt like we were making it easier to be targeted at night.
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This actually made the official Army's top ten dumbest rules list... I understand the need for them especially during night ops but who wants to standout in a combat situation? Not I... I actually served with a guy that got shot in the neck wearing a pt belt while performing guard duty in a tour @Balad
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