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SPC Andrew Griffin
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I have a very close friend who is black and I asked him when it first started, what he thought about this Black Lives Matter issue. And just so everyone knows, I am white and I also think that this movement is dangerous. He immediately said that it is a problem and will lead to nothing but racial tensions and violence. He then added that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are nothing but race baiters and are only in it for the money. I asked him why he thought the movement was a problem when the black community leaders were all behind it. He then answered my question with a question; why does the black community need leaders? His words not mine, "You don't see white people with community leaders, telling people what to think and do. You don't see Asian communities with leaders, telling people what to do. You don't see Latin community leaders telling people what to think and do. And if there are, they aren't parading on TV telling people 'No justice, no peace." I had never thought about it in that light before. Why do any communities; white, black, Asian or whatever need "leaders?" I just thought I'd share that thought.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
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This is an Awesome Quote! Wealthy Quote! Thank you Brother!
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How do I "interpret" it? That is a strange question. Much like "how do you interpret the sun is hot".
All lives matter. Even cops' lives.

But if black lives matter, why are the biggest percentage of abortions done in the black community?
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SPC Andrew Griffin
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You pose a Great and Valid Point! I agree with you!
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It is a racist slogan being used to further the segragation of Americans based on color and social beliefs.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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Thank you for your Comment, but in what way Brother?
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Because when we start separating Americans by color, gender, religion, or otherwise by any method (i.e. Black Lives Matter, NAACP, Checking yes for Hispanic on all forms), it creates an invisible wall that segregates us into said groups. The same can be said for policemen. We see 10 bad coppers and we assume all/most are bad dudes and that couldn't be farther from the truth. This is all propagated by the media. America is in a sad state and it is all because someone is trying to improve viewer rating or to attain a political vote to get that cushy, high paying political position.
That's why #blacklivesmatters is BS. I could go on about it all day.
During the FDR started his TVA campaign, he had pictures and video of the poorest and most backwoods Appalacian people shown across the nation. This propagated the inbred, uneducated, hillbilly view that Americans still have of the Appalachian people and that is far from the truth. But it was all to further a political move. It affects everyone.
You see where I'm going with this?
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SPC Andrew Griffin
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SSG (Join to see) - I get your Point! Strong Commentary! Thank you.
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Either all lives matter, none ever will.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
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Great Point!
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That says it all for me.
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Edited 9 y ago
I used to interpret it as a racist matter, especially with how people from the "black lives matter" crowd would always shoot down or belittle those who were in the "all lives matter" crowd.

However I saw a post a few weeks ago that changed my point of view on it.

In the whole Black Lives Matter debate, we've missed out that there is an implicit "too" at the end.

The analogy that was gives was on of a family sitting down to thanksgiving dinner where all the family members are passing around the food and getting huge, but equal, portions of the meal, when it gets to the last family member, theres barely any food left, and they they ask "can I get my fair share?" to which the other family members reply "how about everyone gets their fair share". Well they're missing the implied "too" at the end of that family members question.

I didn't do the analogy as much justice as I could have, so if I find it Ill paste it on here.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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Thank you Brother! Please share it with me when you find it!
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SPC Robert Patrick
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Black Lives do matter but just the same as all others. The issue with this slogan is that that you do not hear it being chanted in the streets of Chicago where you have black on black murders all the time. You do not have anybody trying to change the culture in these areas were there are high amounts of crime. Is it sad that we have any loss of life yes but on the same token when an officer gives you a command comply do not resist do not fight back and do not charge the officer. Just as in the military we go through an escalation of force based on what the situation entails so do cops. If they perceive an immediate threat to themselves or those around them they are going to reach for their weapons. Now that being said there have been times the cops have been wrong. But 9 times out of 10 they make the right decision. But honestly this slogan should be gotten rid of for it is being used to increase a divide by Al Sharpton and his goons. After the recent shooting in North Carolina the residents and Families essentially to Al to stay away because all his goons have brought is more pain to the areas they travel too ie. Ferguson and Baltimore.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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I Agree with you!
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SMSgt Tony Barnes
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It was a great slogan in the aftermath of Ferguson. But, all lives matter and at this point it is being morphed into a phrase that is somewhat offensive to groups that aren't remembering the original genesis.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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I Agree with you!
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CSM Charles Hayden
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SFC Andrew Griffin, Of course Black Lives matter! I consider that an ill unadvised slogan!
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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You have a Point!
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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It means we have a problem.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
SPC Andrew Griffin
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Thank you for your Comment. What kind of Problem do we have?
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