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Is this necessary in our society, especially after the Michael Brown and Eric Garner deaths? Or are these folks taking it too far?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/02/texas-gun-nuts-police-the-police-with-a-black-panthers-tactic.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/02/texas-gun-nuts-police-the-police-with-a-black-panthers-tactic.html
Posted 11 y ago
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Cops police their own. Let them be. Although there are bad apples in every bunch the two guys you mentioned before were two guys that broke the law. However I do not agree so much about the Eric garner thing because the police did go too far. Mike brown. Justice served. I will say this little fact for you. States with open carry laws or pro gun states have far less crime than anti gun states and liberal states. Facts are facts regardless of how much people don't like them.
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Cops also protect their own. Bet on it. Allowing any gov't agency to be completely on its own for oversight is asking for corruption and abuses of power and authority.
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I believe the Media blew things way out of proportion in these cases in the first place by stating speculation as fact. It also didn't help that national leaders have their personal opinions as if it was a national stance on the subjects... Like with everything else, it is the 1% that gives a bad name to the other 99% doing their job.
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This is a very few folks who have a unique way of protecting civil rights by the free exercise thereof. They will soon tire and move on to a new hobby. It is those devolving idiots that are actually anti-police that pillage businesses and threaten the lives of police that all of us need to watch.
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Since main stream media has failed at every level to maintain accountability by asking hard questions and presenting on researched facts, and using the most credible sources. It is up to the people to keep its civil servants accountable, and transparent. For years communities cried and said these things were being done, and the world would not listen, now the eye of the world is in everyone's pocket, and it is becoming more and more difficult to say that this things are not happening.
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Our society has more respect for criminals and dogs than law enforcement...
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That's a bold statement, SSG (Join to see). I disagree, but I can certainly understand the sentiment and where you're coming from.
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I am not against law abiding citizens carry firearms. I am totally against police watching. We as a society must accept the majority of police are protecting us, not out to hurt us. If you are not committing an act of criminality, you typically have nothing to worry about with the police. If you are contacted, comply. If the police are wrong, report the act to internal affairs or if you believe it is an act which violated your civil rights to the United States Attorney's Office or the FBI.
Law enforcement officers have enough issues to deal with without adding armed civilians who are monitoring their action. Stop the madness.
Law enforcement officers have enough issues to deal with without adding armed civilians who are monitoring their action. Stop the madness.
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I should add, when I was in the Ohio ANG, I trained with the local sheriff's office. We were taught riot control, etc., but one deputy also taught us how to continue to beat a man who is already submissive (with examples from his career). He said that all you have to do is keep yelling "Stop resisting, stop resisting!" and the crowds around will assume the individual is still resisting. He gave us examples of doing this because he didn't like the guy who was already handcuffed.
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Thanks for sharing that, SGT Justin Singleton. That's an example of precisely why some folks are undertaking things such as cop watching.
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I open carry. I did have a CCW, but I let it expire (due to money reasons), so if I go outside of the house (I live in a very, very rough neighborhood) to walk with my wife, I open carry. I am a big fan of open carry.
That said, provoking the police in this fashion seems to be going a bit too far. I have no problem filming the police during an arrest, but following them around? Borderline stalking.
I have no problem with the citizens being armed and flexing their rights...that is what I fought for.
That said, provoking the police in this fashion seems to be going a bit too far. I have no problem filming the police during an arrest, but following them around? Borderline stalking.
I have no problem with the citizens being armed and flexing their rights...that is what I fought for.
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I'm with you, SGT Justin Singleton, especially on provoking police. That, to me, is akin to grabbing for a cop's gun. What do you expect is going to happen when you do something like that? I would expect to be arrested, or worse.
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SGT Justin Singleton
Well, they are within their rights, and therefore shouldn't be arrested, but making tensions high in this fashion is going to get someone hurt. None of us liked the ROE in the war, and these cops are facing those same situations.
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The actions of few should not speak for all. I'm not going to form my opinion of all black people from Brown and Garner same as I am not going to form an opinion of Al law enforcement from the actions of a few. What I do know is cops have a lot to deal with and I have no sympathy for a criminal. My heart bleeds for the harming of the innocent, cop or civilian.
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Thanks for your input, PO2 James Hayes. I agree with you about the danger of generalizations, stereotypes, etc.
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It's all fine and well to have checks and balances in the law enforcement community. However, I'm pretty sure anyone would be angry if their family member was killed by a drunk driver, or a stray bullet, or a robbery. And then what? Handle it yourself? We have laws and law enforcement officers for a reason. And yes, just like not everyone in uniform served/is serving honorably, the folks in blue have the same issues. We should support our LEOs, not berate them as a group for a mistake made by an individual.
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