Posted on Apr 12, 2020
MSgt Neil Greenfield
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Blaming the current pandemic on previous administrations is nothing more than passing the buck. The USA currently leads all other nations in the number of confirmed cases of coronavirus. That does not give any confidence in our ability to counter this threat and looking at conspiracies is a blame game.
For up to date statistics on where the USA stands, see the link:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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MSG Stan Hutchison
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Lessons learned?
We as a nation cannot fight this pandemic effectively without leadership at the federal level. We have not had that.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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There are a lot of good responses on this topic. One thing I don't think has been mentioned is that in the past the CDC has played a leadership role in global control and prevention of diseases, including novel diseases like COVID-19.

One thing that happened as part of "America First" is we pulled back from those efforts. Globally, what the US had done to help control diseases like COVID-19 didn't happen. Not only did we not control it over here, we didn't help control it in other countries and so it spilled over here in much more serious quantities. Helping control diseases in other countries is in our national interest. It helps us control it here. It was a failure across the board.
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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Personally, I don't think we know anywhere near enough with any certainty to begin assessing it holistically. One thing that does seem to be blatantly clear is that we're drowning in low-quality information, and suffer from a resultant "trust deficit". Imagine going on an operation with NCOs and officers you couldn't trust, making decisions on information even they couldn't trust, towards an objective not even the planners knew for certain they could trust. Trust is what binds any group of humans together, and once it's gone... it can be nearly impossible to restore it. If I were to hazard some very rough guesses, I'd suggest that moving forward, we need to step back from "details" (such as which states are doing what vs. others) and look at the "Big Picture". Data needs to be rigorously vetted and segregated. For example; if you're going to report the daily "death toll", then those numbers needs to come from a central source, reflect complete accuracy in terms of age, cause of death, location, prior morbidity factors, etc... and then be compared to known metrics such as "annual averages" across the same data sets. If 1,600 people die, but 1,000 of them fit within "common" identifiers... then we have to address the 600 "uncommon" as something entirely separate. If it can be critically confirmed that 300 of them would've died within roughly the same time frame regardless of COVID-19... that too needs to be taken into account. Frankly, I think those at the "top" sometimes get trapped by "Mustdosomethingnowitus", only to end up having to reverse their positions, or alter decisions... ultimately wasting more time and resources.
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MSgt Neil Greenfield
MSgt Neil Greenfield
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Thank you. I agree with everything you just stated. At the moment, everyone seems to be concerned with blaming China, previous administrations, etc. I don't really care about the blame as these items are just "low hanging fruit". It's a way for deflecting away from what needs to be done now. This is a national issue and not a state's issue. More to the point, this is a national security issue. It's not being treated this way. But this is the way the pandemic is being handled. I don't care what was or wasn't done in previous administrations, except if that knowledge contributes to lessons learned. In a lot of ways, we're the "United *But Separate* States of America". Leaving the response to the state's responsibility is a very haphazard approach and threatens the stability of the entire country. The White House - present day administration - should be leading the response nationally and internationally. Unfortunately, people do not know the difference between assigning blame, which is rarely a valuable thing to do, versus learning from what was or wasn't done during this pandemic.
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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MSgt Neil Greenfield - In general, I agree also... but where we may differ is in how we view the "national security" and "state's rights" aspect of this crisis in detail. I don't feel there's much benefit in casting allegations either... but I do think the full story on China has yet to be told, and needs to be critically examined. At best, they put the world at risk from poor practices... and worst, they retaliated against economic and political pressure by releasing a targeted weapon of mass destruction. The truth is very likely somewhere "in between", and we ignore that at our continued peril. As regards the states; true-this is a national emergency requiring national coordination. However, the known facts appear to indicate that there's a very different thing going on in places like Utah and Arkansas... than there is in Washington state or New York. Going even deeper, there appears to be significant differences within the states themselves; New York City vs. upstate New York, for example. We really can't have a "one size fits all" approach, and achieve balance in terms of the economic impact (and I don't think that's what you're suggesting at any rate). The best people to come up with those individual solutions "should" be the state and municipal governments (that's why our system is set up that way). Where they fail to, the Federal Government has to walk a fine line between getting them "on track", and running roughshod over the very nature of the Union. For me personally, even great dangers such as these do not justify casting this balance aside.
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