Posted on Apr 12, 2020
MSgt Neil Greenfield
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Blaming the current pandemic on previous administrations is nothing more than passing the buck. The USA currently leads all other nations in the number of confirmed cases of coronavirus. That does not give any confidence in our ability to counter this threat and looking at conspiracies is a blame game.
For up to date statistics on where the USA stands, see the link:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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MSG Stan Hutchison
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Lessons learned?
We as a nation cannot fight this pandemic effectively without leadership at the federal level. We have not had that.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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Here are my AAR comments:
- We should have never dismantled the pandemic team in the NSC. There role was to assess the risk, make quick adjustments to support states and hospitals, and communicate medical procedures.
- It appears various people and federal agencies communicated the threat, but Trump and his administration did not heed the warnings until it was too late. COVID-19 was the country and growing. There was no top to bottom down push to prepare for the pandemic for a few weeks.
-There was no unified response. DHS is supposed to be the unified command element for the national response, but they were AWOL.
-Some folks in the administration bitch about states wanting support.
-During the onset of the US pandemic, the strategic message was it will disappear, we have control, and its just a flu.
-We started planning during the pandemic. We should have started before it hit the US.
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SFC Martin Rickert
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When are we going to call these a pandemic? Pretty soon we won’t be able to walk anywhere, ride a bike or cross a street either

Of the 56.9 million deaths worldwide in 2016, more than half (54%) were due to the top 10 causes. Ischaemic heart disease and stroke are the world’s biggest killers, accounting for a combined 15.2 million deaths in 2016. These diseases have remained the leading causes of death globally in the last 15 years.

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease claimed 3.0 million lives in 2016, while lung cancer (along with trachea and bronchus cancers) caused 1.7 million deaths. Diabetes killed 1.6 million people in 2016, up from less than 1 million in 2000. Deaths due to dementias more than doubled between 2000 and 2016, making it the 5th leading cause of global deaths in 2016 compared to 14th in 2000.

Lower respiratory infections remained the most deadly communicable disease, causing 3.0 million deaths worldwide in 2016. The death rate from diarrhoeal diseases decreased by almost 1 million between 2000 and 2016, but still caused 1.4 million deaths in 2016. Similarly, the number of tuberculosis deaths decreased during the same period, but is still among the top 10 causes with a death toll of 1.3 million. HIV/AIDS is no longer among the world’s top 10 causes of death, having killed 1.0 million people in 2016 compared with 1.5 million in 2000.

Road injuries killed 1.4 million people in 2016, about three-quarters (74%) of whom were men and boys.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I am going to stop responding. This is getting absurd.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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SFC Martin Rickert - Your position is clearly lost. You’re just throwing stuff against the wall and seeing if anything sticks which is why you keep trying new arguments as the prior ones are shot down. Clearly you have decided your option on the matter and are now flailing around trying to find an argument to support it.

Now we have moved to “heart disease kills more people than hurricanes so let’s not spend money preparing for hurricanes.” I’m with MAJ Ken Landgren, we have clearly entered the realm of not being able to have a logical discussion with someone who didn’t use logic to get into their position.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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SFC Martin Rickert - I yield the field, sir.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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There are a lot of good responses on this topic. One thing I don't think has been mentioned is that in the past the CDC has played a leadership role in global control and prevention of diseases, including novel diseases like COVID-19.

One thing that happened as part of "America First" is we pulled back from those efforts. Globally, what the US had done to help control diseases like COVID-19 didn't happen. Not only did we not control it over here, we didn't help control it in other countries and so it spilled over here in much more serious quantities. Helping control diseases in other countries is in our national interest. It helps us control it here. It was a failure across the board.
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