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Bernie Sanders is running on the platform of social revolution, promising equality on many different fronts and the fueling attacks on Corporate America. Hillary Clinton speaks with a much more moderate voice in her appeal to all political factions in the all-too-likely scenario of a Clinton-Trump ticket, while still claiming to tout progressive ideals. With "The Bern" seemingly aflame everywhere around, why is the former senator and Secretary of State in many ways "running the table" amongst Democrats (and Republicans distancing themselves from neoconservative and populist ideals)? After Super Tuesday, Clinton overwhelmingly took control of delegates coming from the South- this speaks volumes when considering she is obviously appealing to both minority and older majority voters in those states, something obviously key to winning the Democratic nomination.
We're all mostly veterans here- where do you stand? What do you think (particularly as veterans) about her potentially becoming your next Commander-in-Chief, regardless of whether you think she'll win or not? Both conservatives and liberals (and anywhere in between) are welcome to chime in.
We're all mostly veterans here- where do you stand? What do you think (particularly as veterans) about her potentially becoming your next Commander-in-Chief, regardless of whether you think she'll win or not? Both conservatives and liberals (and anywhere in between) are welcome to chime in.
Posted 10 y ago
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MSgt (Join to see)
I think it is more about hating Trump. Most people forget about her past and what she has done.
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SGT Damaso V Santana
If people forgot about her past then we are in serious trouble, what have we become?
As far as Trump, I read today that he had a conversation with tricky Billy about 3 weeks before his decision to run, not saying anything, just saying...
As far as Trump, I read today that he had a conversation with tricky Billy about 3 weeks before his decision to run, not saying anything, just saying...
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Her ability to operate under a complete different set of rules and stay unnaccountable for her actions?
FBI determined Clinton's private email server contained :
110 classified emails in 52 chains
8 top secret emails
36 "secret" emails
8 "confidential" emails
All were clearly designated as such at the time sent or received. Additionally, another 2,000 emails had been "up-classified" to confidential after being sent or received.
It also found several work-related emails Clinton's staff did not include with the 30,000 handed over to the State Department for release to FOIA requesters.
The McCarran Internal Security Act 793(e), States: "mere retention" of information a crime no matter what the intent, covering even former government officials writing their memoirs.
1.) 18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
2.) 18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
3.) U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
4.) 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
5.) 18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
If it can be proven that an accused destroyed, withheld, or concealed the existence of official records being sought under subpoena
6.) 18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
7.) 18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
If it can be proven that an accused arranged for the Department of State to hire an Information Technology (IT) specialist to primarily administer and maintain a private server system owned by the accused, then the accused can be convicted of conspiracy to commit honest services fraud and probably wire fraud.
8.) 18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense
If any accused and any third party can be proven to have colluded in any violation of federal, criminal law, then all involved can be charged with criminal conspiracy as well as being charged with the underlying offense.
FBI determined Clinton's private email server contained :
110 classified emails in 52 chains
8 top secret emails
36 "secret" emails
8 "confidential" emails
All were clearly designated as such at the time sent or received. Additionally, another 2,000 emails had been "up-classified" to confidential after being sent or received.
It also found several work-related emails Clinton's staff did not include with the 30,000 handed over to the State Department for release to FOIA requesters.
The McCarran Internal Security Act 793(e), States: "mere retention" of information a crime no matter what the intent, covering even former government officials writing their memoirs.
1.) 18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
2.) 18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
3.) U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
4.) 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
5.) 18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
If it can be proven that an accused destroyed, withheld, or concealed the existence of official records being sought under subpoena
6.) 18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
7.) 18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
If it can be proven that an accused arranged for the Department of State to hire an Information Technology (IT) specialist to primarily administer and maintain a private server system owned by the accused, then the accused can be convicted of conspiracy to commit honest services fraud and probably wire fraud.
8.) 18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense
If any accused and any third party can be proven to have colluded in any violation of federal, criminal law, then all involved can be charged with criminal conspiracy as well as being charged with the underlying offense.
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Her party has done a good job at manipulating people. And defining there opponents. And using minorites playing on there vunerabilities. For her gain.
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Very good question because I can't find anything appealing about her. I am not a Trump fan at all but I understand his popularity is based on his not being a career politician and that he routinely sticks it to the establishment.
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SGM Joel Cook
I would not go with stupid! I would go with misinformed, disillusioned, institutionalized, maybe even brainwashed or uneducated. I know way to many highly educated liberals that I went to high school with, nearly every one has a bachelors degree with many having masters and one or two Doctorates. They are defiantly not stupid but they are definitely somehow convinced that HRC is the best thing since sliced bread. Go figure!
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She holds the promise of continued and perpetual Free Stuff. "Don't pay attention to the man (woman) behind the curtain" comes to mind. That bad man will make you get up and work again, he might even expect you to perform and excell. She guarantees the masses that nothing will be asked of them. The dole will be raised and the mob appeased. That upstart will be crushed beneath her expensive Italian shoes. She may well become America's Stalin in a pant suit. Or is the look more a Maoist tunic?
As for the CIC issue, I believe I will post my retirement from my 10 years of volunteer service to the troops. The flag patch on my uniform has become to heavy to bear. Time to make a shadow box and call it a day.
As for the CIC issue, I believe I will post my retirement from my 10 years of volunteer service to the troops. The flag patch on my uniform has become to heavy to bear. Time to make a shadow box and call it a day.
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Nothing, she was a lawyer and you can tell by her actions and how she speaks. She is for her self and thats the bottom line. She says one thing and does the opposite. I can see faults in all of the candidates.
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Hard as I try, I cannot think of even one thing that is appealing about Hillary Clinton. There is no good in her.
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