Posted on Nov 18, 2020
What possible impacts could there be to a rapid draw down of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq?
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Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller announced Tuesday that the US will withdraw thousands more US troops from Afghanistan and Iraq by January 15, 2021 -- just days before President-elect Joe Biden takes office, confirming plans first reported by CNN on Monday.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/afghanistan-iraq-withdrawal-pentagon/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/afghanistan-iraq-withdrawal-pentagon/index.html
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IMO it won't matter when we leave, the Afghan Gov't will not stay in power as is.
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MSG Stan Hutchison - there's just no getting around that. I think we are better off cutting bait than continue to dump good resources after bad.
MSG Stan Hutchison
CPT (Join to see) - Once again we got involved without a clear, defined mission and a means to measure success or failure. I have no problem with "nation building" nor with "terrorist prevention" but either or both need to be more clearly defined. A "road map" to the mission goals.
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After two decades we still don't know...
MAJ Byron Oyler
We know why we went there, we know what our goal was, and the locals never embraced self-determination and self-leadership. They are content with man love Thursdays, their opium, and there lifestyle. Spending billions there every year will not change this.
How long is long enough. They have been saying for 15 years when we leave, the government falls. If we still have not changed that, how long, how many more body bags. This is what happens when you get into wars you don't let the troops win. When our "allies" in the region give shelter openly to those we are supposed to be fighting, whats the point of doing it. Pakistan has wanted the Taliban back in power since this started, they gave OSB shelter for years. Seems to be if we are going to help someone in the region, it should be India, but what the hell do I know in the end. I am just some older than dirt grumpy dude who is just tired of seeing our kids die for no point.
MAJ Byron Oyler
Pakistan is not our friend or ally and I agree about India. I think we should make some of our decisions based off who immigrates to our country and makes something of themselves verses those that immigrate and want to make the US what they left. Indians rise up as do Filipinos and Somalis and Pakistanis want to the US the shit holes they left.
For God’s sake, leave now or when? The doctrinal answer would be “when conditions are set” (Phase IV / V of Joint Operations). But if history is worth a penny, Afghanistan is a lost cause. As a whole is not sustainable on its own so either we stay there for ever or cut the cord at some point. Better sooner than later because I rather have our troops home than there in defense of the indefensible.
MAJ Javier Rivera
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We shouldn’t. Let then do whatever they want. Since the times of Alexander the Great, the region has been an unconquered region. Poor Alex had his 4th point of contact handed to him.
Worst case scenario: let the official government at the national, provincial, and tribal levels know: if you misbehave then we’ll MOAB the the hell out of your Taliban loving country!
We shouldn’t. Let then do whatever they want. Since the times of Alexander the Great, the region has been an unconquered region. Poor Alex had his 4th point of contact handed to him.
Worst case scenario: let the official government at the national, provincial, and tribal levels know: if you misbehave then we’ll MOAB the the hell out of your Taliban loving country!
MAJ Javier Rivera
Those 2 fools just wanted to play world domination and had it coming. Our case was different. For us, after 9/11 and kicking the Taliban's behind, we should have let some sort of semi establish government with a bunch of blue helmets.
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MAJ Javier Rivera - Totally agree, but it's like marriage for lack of anything more relevant; even a new pet. You can impose your will in the early stages. Wait too long and it's a lost cause. A mushroom cloud over Tora Bora might have done that early in the courtship. Small footprint of SAD SOG, SF, with support and follow on forces as required to get the hombres. They thought about Rangers but said no. Establishing a government might have folded in better, Maybe not, due to religious beliefs and economic pressure. Now, annulment looks like the play. Only folks on the ground can truly say. We dropped some major time and $ over there. Lots of good lives.
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