Posted on Apr 8, 2014

What REG says that it is a REQUIREMENT that a Soldier stays on an installation for 3 yrs?

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When did DA stop moving soldiers who have made the promotion list to SFC or MSG, when there are NO positions at the current Installation at the next Rank?

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SGM Matthew Quick

Posted >1 y ago

AR 614-200...it's actually 48 months.

Paragraph 3-8:

"The minimum time-on-station requirement for Soldiers assigned from or within CONUS is 48 months. Waivers may be granted individually on a case-by-case basis by the appropriate approval authority."

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HRC told us in 2012 that the Army is trying to make it 4 yr tours conus to save on money. What do you say about that? Have they made it effective or not?

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CW2 Jonathan Kantor

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I'm not sure what the reg is but a Soldier is only guaranteed 12 months on station. 36 months is the norm for CONUS and 24 OCONUS (If unaccompanied). I just got orders and I have only been here for 24 months. You never really know...

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SGM Matthew Quick

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Chief,

You replied to the comment (above) which included the SPECIFIC regulation and paragraph...you can NOW be sure what the reg is.

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SGM Matthew Quick

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SSG Martin,

It already IS 4 years...allowing exceptions.

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LTC (Join to see)

Posted >1 y ago

I'm not advocating the way the Army works, but you are saying that the Army is required to move/PCS you in order for you to get promoted. Unfortunately that has never been the case. Yes, the Army should look at vacancies for ranks/MOSs and if there is a soldier who can fill that vacancy they should pull them from somewhere and assign them to that vacancy. However, if our orders say for 3 years then that's what we are stuck with until the Army rescinds or deletes or amends those orders. I'm with you on the point that if there is a vacant E-8 slot that you should be up for consideration for that slot. However, the Army isn't obligated to move anyone for their own promotion purposes.

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MSG (Join to see)

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Thank you.

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SFC (Join to see)

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DoDD 1315.07 - Read it, nobody else does. I think Big Army looked at that and said "that's nice."

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SGM Matthew Quick

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What does this say?

The Secretaries of the Military Departments shall establish procedures within their respective Departments to monitor and measure PCS turbulence. While there are no specific formats required, the Secretary concerned must maintain not only data on the number of exceptions approved but also historical data that shall enable the Military Services and the Department of Defense to determine the effectiveness of assignment policies and the cost-effectiveness of statutory entitlements.

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SFC (Join to see)

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Basically that the Secretaries are responsible to keep PCS' to a minimum and they should keep a record of PCS'. Read 4.3 below.

It is DoD policy that:

4.1. Assignments shall be made for all Service members without regard to their color, race, religious preference (except chaplains), ethnic background, national origin, age, marital status(except for military couples), or gender (except where prohibited by statute and limitation of facilities) consistent with requirements for physical capabilities.

4.2. Reassigning a Service member, involving a PCS move, shall be authorized only for national security or for ensuring equitable treatment of Service members.

4.3. The primary considerations in reassigning a Service member shall be the Service member’s current qualifications and ability to fill a valid requirement. Other factors such as availability, volunteer status, TOS, and other criteria shall be secondary. When Service members with the required qualifications are identified, then the other factors and criteria shall be considered. Military Services should try to minimize personnel turbulence.

4.4. Specifics concerning DoD policy, responsibilities, and approval authorities for selecting, training, and assigning personnel to Security Assistance Organizations are in DoD Directive 2055.3 (reference (d)).

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The only thing the Secretaries are tracking are PCS' under one year TOS. Those AIs require a waiver from the SecArmy's office. At least they did 6 years ago.

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