Posted on Jul 9, 2014
What's the longest you've ever waited for an evaluation to get to you?
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So, a non-idle question....
What is the longest it has taken for YOUR evaluation to reach you?
This seems in my experience to be a chronic problem in the Reserve components. Please select an option or if you have one of the epic > 1 year ones, would love to hear it.
What is the longest it has taken for YOUR evaluation to reach you?
This seems in my experience to be a chronic problem in the Reserve components. Please select an option or if you have one of the epic > 1 year ones, would love to hear it.
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Posted >1 y ago
Responses: 27
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As your rank increases, so does the echelon at which your paperwork gets lost at.
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Is there a "3 years and seriously impacted career and delayed promotion" button? In the meanwhile... I'll just check 181-365 for good measure! :)
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MSG (Join to see)
I'm awaiting my evaluation from my Reserve Duty in May, when all it needed was signatures. I'm still waiting one from LAST year.....Oh well, I'll be retiring next year anyway.....
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I never got a retirement OER. I never got an OER for my tour in Iraq. Oh well.
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I haven't had any more than 6 months late. But the command I'm in now isn't very good about paperwork or moving things forward....so we'll see how this year's OER goes. I did inherit a Soldier who had been waiting over a year; I had to jump through hoops to get it completed.
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Being active duty its a bit easier and more reliable. Difficult to understand why it is so hard for other variations in military service. Regardless of status Actie Duty, Guard, or Reserves....there is only right and wrong no gray area ppl should never be waiting unecessary breaks of time to receive and complete evaluations. I know being proactive and developing your own evaluation does provide some support. I also beleive from the enlisted side that madatory filings to HRC on a quaterly basis prior to a Annual or Change of Rater for 2166-8-1 should be done the way the system was made to be operated and maintained.
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I stay engaged in the process and hold raters and senior raters accountable! As a rater and senior rater, I never let one stay on the desk or in the inbox more than 72 hours total. Usually if there is a good support form and counseling, it is an easy route to get it done, however, the worse the support form and counseling, the harder they are to do.
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LTC (Join to see)
I agree with you CPT Hermida, but the buck is not going to stop with the S1. It is ultimately the SR or Rater's job to manage their own profile. Yes, the S1 should be managing the profile properly.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
CPT John Hermida I respect your point of view, but I strongly disagree. It is the SR's (and now Rater's) RESPONSIBILITY to manage their profile. They can delegate the work (to an S1, for instance), but not the RESPONSIBILITY. When you start out as a SR or Rater, you know what your "default" profile is and manage from there.
I get that "it's hard" and "things happen." And that's exactly why leaders are paid the big bucks.
If you need the "it's not late until 90 days..." rule to give the APPROPRIATE rating (note, I didn't say "the one you want"), I simply feel you have failed in your responsibility.
I'll drop this thread here, as I can't see any combination of words that will make me believe that this common practice is correct.
I get that "it's hard" and "things happen." And that's exactly why leaders are paid the big bucks.
If you need the "it's not late until 90 days..." rule to give the APPROPRIATE rating (note, I didn't say "the one you want"), I simply feel you have failed in your responsibility.
I'll drop this thread here, as I can't see any combination of words that will make me believe that this common practice is correct.
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CW5 Michael Scheller
As I helped my BC manage his brand new Senior Rater profile we had to make tough choices not only on where someone was blocked but also on when we submitted their OER senior rating. We knew that for each ACOM he gave, we had to do two or more COM before another high performing officer could get the rating he had earned. We would use that 90 days to delay submitting a true ACOM officer's OER knowing the required eval dates on two upcoming COM officers. Sometimes, especially with an immature profile you might only get to top block one officer out of a pair of virtual twins; IMO you pick the officer closer to their promotion board and still make strong statements on the second.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
It is my belief that raters more than senior raters know who their people are and whose above the norm and sitting right in the middle. The senior rater can be disconnected if he or she senior rates crazy numbers of officers up to the a hundred or more. Aviation brings with it an unusual amount of officer in the CW2 and CW3 rank structure, ore so the CW2. It is not unusual for a battalion to have 90 CW2s in it's formation. How many of those does the boss know by name, mush less how they perform. He has to rely on the rater and intermediate, however, the future will tell with the OER system now that raters have a block check and can mature a profile long before becoming a senior rater. My point simply means that it doesn't take 90 days anymore with the new system to rate an officer or NCO, the system is based in a database and frankly no longer an S1/G1 function. EES is decent, but where it fails is that officers being rated don't receive email updates as to when the raters and SRs sign the OER. This has been a good discussion and as said, it is frankly the officer who owns the block check's responsibility solely. Echelon commanders above the dirty boot are often incredibly busy and it takes a lot of time to write the middle of the road folks and those slightly above, just like a board file, real easy to pick the bottom and the top 10%, real hard to get the 80% in the middle right. Therefore about 35% of the middle will ultimately get a ACOM check for proper balancing, those are the hardest to write.
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I only selected the 181-365 because you didn't have a 365+ available. I had a REVIEWER that finally signed an NCOER a year after the RATER and SR RATER.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
The reviewer in this case in my OPINION should have been relieved! That is just wrong and they have the easiest damn part!
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I would say less than a month because either my rater and chain were involved and at least attempted to complete the evaluation. Unfortunately, I've had to write two of my evaluations and make it a habit of documenting everything I do so I at least have a skeleton NCOER come my thru date.
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Navy E5 evals are due to PERS in March and I didn't sign mine until almost May.
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