Posted on Jun 8, 2021
What tips do you have to navigate VES or Veteran Evaluation Services?
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I am assuming this focused on preparing for a VA disability initial submission, follow-up or appeal to the Department of Veterans Affairs.
1. I highly recommend contacting DAV, VFW, or any other veterans service organization [VSO]. They have offices dedicated to assisting service members by translating the language of [US Code] Title 10 service-connected injuries and illnesses into [US Code] Title 32 VA disability submissions.
2. Ensure you have a copy [hopefully more than one] of all your service medical records and any civilian medical records during your period of active military service. I highly recommend making pdf copies of all records and storing it on a thumb drive.
3. Start the process no later than six months before your retirement/ETS. Your personnel office should be able to help you by providing information and perhaps contact info for VSO folks who are available to help you navigate the process and follow-up.
Thank you my friend SSG Carlos Madden for alerting me.
1. I highly recommend contacting DAV, VFW, or any other veterans service organization [VSO]. They have offices dedicated to assisting service members by translating the language of [US Code] Title 10 service-connected injuries and illnesses into [US Code] Title 32 VA disability submissions.
2. Ensure you have a copy [hopefully more than one] of all your service medical records and any civilian medical records during your period of active military service. I highly recommend making pdf copies of all records and storing it on a thumb drive.
3. Start the process no later than six months before your retirement/ETS. Your personnel office should be able to help you by providing information and perhaps contact info for VSO folks who are available to help you navigate the process and follow-up.
Thank you my friend SSG Carlos Madden for alerting me.
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan
Great advice, I would add a caveat to your number 3. If you are still active and broken, you can talk to your primary doc and see if you can start a Med board. Most docs are awesome at saying that you are jacked and need to be med boarded, but some aren’t as willing to suggest it to you. It all depends on how broken you are obviously.
Your posts are always on point…thanks for being a wealth of information!
Your posts are always on point…thanks for being a wealth of information!
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SGT Herbert Bollum
After getting copy of both personnel (201 file) and medical records from records center, I uploaded all forms to Goggle Drive for safekeeping and easy access. I also have my education records, CCW, drivers license, auto insurance and many more items filed there in separate file folders.
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Get and keep copies of everything you send or upload to the VA. I can’t tell you how many times I have faxed papers with confirmed receipt and they still don’t know where it went. Never send small bundles of papers. Make sure that each is numbered with a breakdown of the numbering on the second or third page. This will give them quick access to notes on specific things being provided or contested. Summarize all your doctors appointments and test results for everything claimed. Get letters from doctors if they will not file a DBQ or ask for all documents from the office of the doctor. There are notes that will be there that you are unaware of. And get this book. It’s not cheap but it is the resource of champions!
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PV2 Violet Case
Do you have the places address where we can get the book. I've never seen or heard of one. My CSO is not very good. Tks
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SrA Jason Thompson
PV2 Violet Case
I bought mine on Amazon .
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I bought mine on Amazon .
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Get access to all your medical records, get advice from others that have been through the process, and don’t wait until after you have officially separated to start the claim process if possible.
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Find yourself a good Veteran Service Officer. Here in Oregon each county has a Veteran Service Office (at least the counties I know). Also, make sure that you have all your medical records prior to exiting the service. I have worked with many veterans that didn't and are now trying to get the information. Buddy statements may also be key in getting your claim approved. If something happened and there is no record in your files, and we know that we didn't go to sick call for things we should have, a letter from a witness can help a lot. Be persistent. The VA will possibly deny your claim. If you feel that they have denied something that they shouldn't have, appeal. A lot of this does go back to having an advocate that will work for you. Any VSO worth a damn will. Just make sure the VSO that you go to for assistance has your best interest in mind. If a VSO is asking for money, look somewhere else. In most cases it is illegal for them to ask you for payment. But some can take a percentage of the award though. A lawyer can ask for payment though and in some cases, a lawyer is definitely warranted. Don't be afraid to ask for help. We know veterans "like" to do stuff on their own, but there are so many nuances, changes, and rules to know, there is no way the average person can keep track. Let the experts work for you! I have had good experiences working with most Veteran Service Officers that I have interacted with. But there are some that call themselves such and are far from it. And also just some that really suck at their jobs. So be selective.
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1LT Voyle Smith
The DAV was a huge help to me. My initial claim was denied. The DAV rep at a VA service center in San Antonio worked with me to prepare an appeal and stayed with me for the next five years in submitting multiple appeals, each one resulting in an ever-growing increase in disability rating and compensation. It all came together four years ago with a 100% service-connected disability rating. He was a volunteer and received no compensation for his work on my behalf. I never hired a lawyer and never needed one. The DAV rep knew what to do and how to navigate through the VA rules and regulations.
I owe him and his organization my thanks for shepherding my claim to its successful conclusion. The DAV are wonderful advocates for veterans and our families.
I owe him and his organization my thanks for shepherding my claim to its successful conclusion. The DAV are wonderful advocates for veterans and our families.
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PO1 Chad Alcock
A1C Doug Towsley - If you need a contact that knows the Portland area, let me know. I can get you in touch with my counterpart up there.
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Never give up. They will disapprove you over and over trying to get you frustrated and hope you will quit.
It took me 30 years to get a favorable response and I think it was because I keep at it all though I did quit for about 16 years.
I did notice one thing, After Bush was elected the first time I was approved in a year after I submitted my request.
It took me 30 years to get a favorable response and I think it was because I keep at it all though I did quit for about 16 years.
I did notice one thing, After Bush was elected the first time I was approved in a year after I submitted my request.
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This is NOT a Medical issue when it comes to fighting for your earned benefits, it is a LEGAL issue. Once you realize that this is about crossing "T"'s and dotting "i"'s the issue becomes a lot easier. I recommend reading the entire CFR regarding your rights, but for disability Ratings, This is what you NEED to PROVE legally using medical documentation and Buddy Statements...
"https://www.benefits.va.gov/warms/bookc.asp"
The Good News is that you can Hire a Lawyer to help with the process but it will cost you and I would recommend waiting until the Appeals process before resorting to spending your money. Also Everything that you submit has a TIME PERIOD that needs to be adhered to, Don't Miss and try not to reschedule appointments, they are hard to get.
"https://www.benefits.va.gov/warms/bookc.asp"
The Good News is that you can Hire a Lawyer to help with the process but it will cost you and I would recommend waiting until the Appeals process before resorting to spending your money. Also Everything that you submit has a TIME PERIOD that needs to be adhered to, Don't Miss and try not to reschedule appointments, they are hard to get.
Apply for and manage the VA benefits and services you’ve earned as a Veteran, Servicemember, or family member—like health care, disability, education, and more.
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PO1 Chad Alcock
Exactly, make sure to show for your appointments. They'll find against you if you don't.
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The difference between a 90% approval and a 100% approval is your ability to show patterns of behavior or rituals that stop you from functioning on a daily basis. If you say "I have PTSD because of -----" then you will get 70%. But if you say "I have PTSD because of ‐----- and everytime -------happens, then it triggers me to ---------- every time." And then you show a pattern of how many times you reacted doing that behavior. You have to be numb to your own pattern of behavior instead of going in there telling them what's wrong with you. Hope this makes sense.
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I didn’t know anything about them when they first contacted me. They tried to give me the impression they were part of the VA. I was slow to realize they weren’t advocates but actually hostile investigators looking to nullify my claim. I don’t trust them to do what’s right and now avoid them whenever possible.
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Get an attorney. If you are approved for VA disability, they will do every single thing possible to reverse the decision. They will literally lie, cheat and steal to reverse it. (I have proof) GET A 20% LAWYER.
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PO1 Chad Alcock
I don't know about a lawyer, but a "quality" veteran service officer can do a lot to help get you taken care of. But there are times that a lawyer is needed.
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CPL Jason Northedge
PO1 Chad Alcock I agree they can help especially for the initial evaluation. But after the initial one it would be wise to get your ducks in a row and prepare to get an attorney you will need it.
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PO1 Francis Coarr
When at my hearing for my SSDI the Judge was asking me about pictures I posted on my Facebook Page, so Yeah, Keep personal info quiet and off the web.
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PO1 Chad Alcock
I know someone that as fired for that. He called in sick everyday for a week straight but posted all the fun stuff he was doing on Facebook. Don't give them any ammunition to use against you!
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