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1SG Jack Crutcher
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I have a question for you, did you question all the other shots you took and if your answer is no then why are you questioning this one? Just curious.
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SFC Larry Greenlee
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SGT (Join to see) - Really? Fact check from a liberal news source that helped propagate this fraud? I would sooner trust the "Independent fact checkers" from FaceBook.
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SFC Larry Greenlee - A million people in this country and over six million deaths worldwide and you still think it's a fraud? And then calling Reuters a liberal news source? I can't help you, sarge. No one can help you.
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SFC Larry Greenlee
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SGT (Join to see) - Fortunately, not looking for help....especially from one with their head in the sand relying on media networks to educate themselves. Is Routers liberal? A quick google search on media bias will quickly show you the truth. As for the fraud of COVID, yes, funny how the Global death rate remained unchanged through COVID and the Flu virtually disappeared. Funny how the country with the BEST medical resources and minds globally carried 1/6th of supposed COVID deaths. Keep sippin' that Koolaid.
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Actually, a quick google search on media bias shows Reuters as one of the most factual and least biased sources on the planet. I'm thankful you're retired. The flu virtually disappeared because we all stayed at home. Staying at home also decreased death rates in many other situations like car accidents and the like. In any case, clearly we're not going to change each other's minds. I'll stick to my easily verifiable facts from multiple sources. You stick to your Fox News.
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SPC John Dailey
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With all the shots the Military pumps into its people, why would you insist on not getting anymore?
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SPC Jeremy A
SPC Jeremy A
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NONE of those other shots enter your cells, introduce created genetic material (mRNA) that your cells then use to produced a foreign protein which is then released into your bloodstream. NOT A SINGLE ONE. This is an entirely NEW technology, method of action and operates at the genetic manipulation level. That's worth a pause to discuss. I don't believe the oath I took authorizes my chain of command to manipulate me at the genetic level.
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SPC Jeremy A
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SGT (Join to see) - OH so since we're copy/pasting, let's do this!
How did you pass the NCO boards without being able to distinguish "MODIFICATION" from "MANIPULATION"? I never said anything was permanently changed. That's a BAD FAITH post there (Verify To See).
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A1C Michael Haggerty
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I know I would have had a dishonorable for this and you should too.
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TSgt 100% Va Disabled
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I can not say, but the best I can think of is a separated for the benefit of the military, worst case I could think of is bad conduct discharge. Both will block you from future service, but with a BCD, you can later apply to get it upgraded via VA. But, I am not sure with the craziness that has consumed this world. God bless and keep you well. I can tell you, that is you cast your cares and needs upon him and trust, He takes great delight in helping those whom lean upon him.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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I’m guessing here. You didn’t complete your contract so no honorable, it shouldn’t be a consideration. So I’d guess a general under honorable conditions. I don’t understand losing a career over a Pfizer FDA approved vaccine, your always in close contact, especially on a ship. You do what’s safe, the flu shot isn’t 100%, people have reactions, there’s no miracle bullet here you just do what you can.
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SPC Jeremy A
SPC Jeremy A
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NONE of the previous shots enter your cells, introduce created genetic material (mRNA) that your cells then use to produced a foreign protein which is then released into your bloodstream. NOT A SINGLE ONE. This is an entirely NEW technology, method of action and operates at the genetic manipulation level. That's worth a pause to discuss. I don't believe the oath I took authorizes my chain of command to manipulate me at the genetic level.
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SPC Jeremy A
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SGT (Join to see) - OH so since we're copy/pasting, let's do this!
How did you pass the NCO boards without being able to distinguish "MODIFICATION" from "MANIPULATION"? I never said anything was permanently changed. That's a BAD FAITH post there (Verify To See).
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SPC Roland Bigby
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Why would you not get vaccinated against a contagious virus? That’s a no-brainet
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SPC Roland Bigby
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I read up on the mRNA but believe I would need to take an advanced biology course to really understand the ramifications and even after that would probably still not really know. In the face of a pandemic I think it might be a good idea to trust the CDC’s recommendations on such a crucial issue. I don’t fully understand the polio or, smallpox. Or measle vaccines either, but they seem to have been effective. SPC Jeremy A
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SPC Jeremy A
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SPC Roland Bigby - As simple as I've ever heard it: A traditional vaccine works SOLELY by putting stuff in the bloodstream and letting the body do its thing. An mRNA vaccine puts stuff into your cells and tricks them into making new proteins, those proteins get out of your cells and THEN the immune system does its thing. It's the injecting something into my body that's going to manipulate the insides of my cells piece that's the problem.
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SPC Roland Bigby
SPC Roland Bigby
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Do whatever you think is right. I know my family and I are vaxxed and boosted, and none of us has gotten sick or grown an extra eye or anything. I'm not here to tell you what to do, but an honorable discharge is really nice in your later years. Whatever type of discharge you get will be less.
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Sgt Earl Neconie
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General Discharge Under Honorable Conditions at the most. Not a good career move to disobey an order! Someone is waiting in line to fill your billet...Good Luck!
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Sgt Earl Neconie
Sgt Earl Neconie
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I was referring to those ALREADY in the Army…(He’s already been in over (2) years; not too many E-1 PRIVATES can fill a two-year BILLET)PV2 Doug Woodin
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Sgt Earl Neconie
Sgt Earl Neconie
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PV2 Doug Woodin
My use of the term BILLET; refers to a JOB or POSITION…sorry for any confusion PV2 Woodin! I’m a MARINE without a WAR…
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SP5 William Jones
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Don't let the door hit you in the ess on your way out
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SPC Zoe Jane Halo
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It’s disobeying a direct order, I’d expect a general as a very best case scenario. Chances are, you just want out and this seems to be an easy out for you.
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SSG Shawn Mcfadden
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So what is so different about all the other shots you had to get (typhoid, mmr, yellow fever, smallpox, anthrax,etc.), and the covid vaccine? To be honest, here you are refusing to do your duty and trying to save some kind of face while doing so. I really shouldn't be responding to this post. Why? I did 21 years in the Army, was vaccinated against everything I just mentioned and more, now I'm working for MSC and I'm vaccinated and I'm making arrangements for my booster shot. If you want to loose your benefits over this go right ahead. You "might" get a General discharge, then you have to deal with life as a civilian, and at this point in your life, you’re not prepared for it.
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SSG Shawn Mcfadden
SSG Shawn Mcfadden
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SPC Jeremy A Like you, I took time to look at and research the vaccines. Unlike you, I don't buy into the claim the mrna vaccines are fast-tracked or whatever.
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SPC Jeremy A
SPC Jeremy A
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SSG Shawn Mcfadden - https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/will-fast-tracked-covid-19-vaccines-be-safe/

Fast tracking is only one of my concerns, this is new technology, genetic manipulation and there have been no long term studies even POSSIBLE regarding the insertion of mRNA into our cells OR any possible effect on the phospholipid bi-layer that this vaccine passes through to deliver it's mRNA.
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SSG Shawn Mcfadden
SSG Shawn Mcfadden
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SPC Jeremy A You might want to look at nature.com According to that site, the history of mRNA goes back to 1987. Also, take into consideration that the FDA had to approve it's use before people got inoculated. So if you want to question weather the vaccines are safe or not, I suggest you start by asking the FDA whatever questions you want to ask them. Just so you know, all the other vaccines that we had to be injected with when we were in the Army, were approved by the FDA before any of us got stuck.
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SPC Jeremy A
SPC Jeremy A
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SSG Shawn Mcfadden - mRNA goes back to day 3 when God created plants (or when they appeared in the evolutionary timeline, your pick). It wasn't wrapped in a lipid ball for insertion into human cells until a couple of years ago. You'll also want to take a look at the FDA recalls. Just because they say a drug (or vaccine) is good today doesn't mean it's still going to be good tomorrow. As I've said about a hundred times on here, the vaccines we all got 'back in the day' worked differently than mRNA based vaccines, I've NEVER disputed that those were safe. However, you said you've done some research so I'm sure you understand the differences, if you do then your original question has been answered and congratulations, you're informed and can make the choice you feel is best and that's cool with me either way.
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