Posted on Oct 28, 2021
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I have no negative marks on my record and have been in the army for over two years.
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Sgt Ed Allen
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I would love to see you guys leave the freaking politics out of answering this individual's question. He's not asking if you agree with him. He is asking what kind of discharge.

The discharge will be a general discharge. It is administrative in nature. It is NOT a Big Chicken Dinner or Dishonorable.

The answer is variable. The Army has not specified if you would get coded as eligible to re-enlist at a later date or not.
The Marines, initially, were flagging those being discharged as NOT eligible for re-enlistment in other branches but is now changing that to say eligible provided you get all your vaccinations.

This does not mean you lose your benefits. It only impacts your eligibility to return to the service at a later date.

For more information, you might read Military Times. They had a good article about this just this week.
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Cpl Richard Leonard
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Its your choice SPC Lucas you are a solider. However think it through and weigh out pros and cons and long term effects of your decisions. I have been out of the Marines since 1976, I have enjoyed many benefits of being a honorably discharged veteran. No one can tell you want to do, But I would weigh the process carefully and read, listen to doctors, speak to family. Pay no attention to the politics. Because once you are out. You are Out. Take care of you and your future.
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Cpl Richard Leonard
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PS my job required me to get the shots. I did it for my family.
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PO1 Todd B.
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Just like every other Veteran, I have no issue taking VETTED and fully released and tested vaccines. The covid vaccines are NOT and in fact are still used under the emergency use authorization... and ANYONE CAN LITERALLY LOOK IT UP.

There are now many laws that make it ILLEGAL for the government to FORCE any kind of experimental drug or medical procedure on active or reserve military personnel. In fact one the most recent is in 2006 or 2007 timeframe. And these vaccines ARE experimental even though the left tries to say they are not and have authorization. They have EMERGENCY authorization for use, ONLY.

First off, if that were not the case, then how come they keep having to do "authorizations for use" based on age groups and more? If these were fully cleared, they would have NO NEED for that.

Second, do NOT READ THE PRESS RELEASE. Actually, go find the public record release and in that you will learn the following:

'The current vaccine is STILL ONLY released under emergency authorization. Comirnaty, the COMMERCIAL release name of the current covid vaccine is authorized for use WHEN, WHEN the commercial vaccine goes into production, NO SOONER THAN 2023. And in fact, therefore the CURRENT EMERGENCY USE authorization is extended until such time as the commercial release enters ACTUAL PRODUCTION and distribution.'

THIS is why you see and hear nearly every day where they talk about getting authorization for this group or that group or some other group. Because it is STILL CLASSED AS EXPERIMENTAL/UNTESTED.

There is a reason no officer has gone to ANY military member and literally said: "I ORDER YOU TO SIT THERE AND TAKE THE SHOT." Not one officer and literally issued a direct order to FORCE a member to take the vaccine. The reason is because they CAN'T. It is literally ILLEGAL and a court martial offense for them to "tell" or "order" someone to partake in anything that is experimental use.

Which is why they are using COERCION and threats to get members to take the vaccine. These laws came about due to all the experiments taking place on military members in the 40, 50 and 60's mainly but also right after the gulf war! Of which there are now hundreds of thousands of Veterans under care through the V/A system due to side effects of the untested Anthrax vaccine that was given to military back then, before that was stopped and the vaccine reworked and put through testing and trials to fix it.

And now with the Supreme Court getting involved, everything is coming apart. If I were you, I would get an attorney NOW and get an injunction prohibiting any action to be taken against you while the legal battle is decided.

If they discharge you, sue them, which a whole lot of members are now doing including two members of my family.. One has already had the case dropped in his favor. The other is still pending.
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SGT Lance LeBerte
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at best I would expect less than honorable, we don't get all the benefits citizens get
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SP5 Geoffrey Vannerson
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You could have ended up in Ft. Riley KS at the United States Army Correctional Activities unit. 1 of 2 options you face; Dishonorable for failure to comply with a direct order, or Chpt 10 General under honorable conditions. This isn't rocket science, fact it isn't really science at all it's all a smoke screen to turn the USA in a different direction. Even if you are discharged and begin the painful search for a job in the "world" you will most likely be faced with the same demand for compliance you have already faced in the Military. Either way Good Luck!!!
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SP5 Geoffrey Vannerson
SP5 Geoffrey Vannerson
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Insubordination is insubordanition either in the military or in civilian life. Get labled with that and you have a better chance of seing a snake play the bongo's then staying in the same career field. With things like linked in and other social media sites word spreads like wild fire. Although No employer may say anything negitive about you when a reference is requested it is not as regulated over the internet. Everyone has/had a choice and little by little they are being taken away from us. For those who intend to stand their ground I salute you, and say good for you! To those who comply I say GET READY to FIGHT!!! You don't throw the first punch because the bully pushes you once, you wait to see if he/she re-thinks their position before making your move. This is only the beginning of a process that was set in play probably long before either of us were born. One word comes to mind "PLANDEMIC."
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SPC Jeremy A
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Well I can tell you this, it's pretty plain to see which side of the discussion is speaking in mandates and absolutes (bullying) and which side speaks to personal freedom and having a choice....
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SP5 Geoffrey Vannerson
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SPC Jeremy A - We ALL will always have a choice, they got their first and second shot (literaly) from me, but there won't be any others. When even the "fake news" reports that fully vaccinated people with boosters are still getting this shit, then getting any ANY other shots for anything besieds tetnes is a waste of my time. Welcome to "The New World Order and Dumbing down America... I can sleep at night knowing that Ididn't vote for any of these "ASS-HATS. ;-) I would rather have had Kanye West. ;-))
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SPC Jeremy A
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That's called 'Breakthrough'. From the Almighty Centers for Disease Control:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/why-measure-effectiveness/breakthrough-cases.html
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1SG Jack Crutcher
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I have a question for you, did you question all the other shots you took and if your answer is no then why are you questioning this one? Just curious.
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SFC Larry Greenlee
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SGT (Join to see) - Really? Fact check from a liberal news source that helped propagate this fraud? I would sooner trust the "Independent fact checkers" from FaceBook.
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SFC Larry Greenlee - A million people in this country and over six million deaths worldwide and you still think it's a fraud? And then calling Reuters a liberal news source? I can't help you, sarge. No one can help you.
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SFC Larry Greenlee
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SGT (Join to see) - Fortunately, not looking for help....especially from one with their head in the sand relying on media networks to educate themselves. Is Routers liberal? A quick google search on media bias will quickly show you the truth. As for the fraud of COVID, yes, funny how the Global death rate remained unchanged through COVID and the Flu virtually disappeared. Funny how the country with the BEST medical resources and minds globally carried 1/6th of supposed COVID deaths. Keep sippin' that Koolaid.
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Actually, a quick google search on media bias shows Reuters as one of the most factual and least biased sources on the planet. I'm thankful you're retired. The flu virtually disappeared because we all stayed at home. Staying at home also decreased death rates in many other situations like car accidents and the like. In any case, clearly we're not going to change each other's minds. I'll stick to my easily verifiable facts from multiple sources. You stick to your Fox News.
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SPC John Dailey
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With all the shots the Military pumps into its people, why would you insist on not getting anymore?
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SPC Jeremy A
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NONE of those other shots enter your cells, introduce created genetic material (mRNA) that your cells then use to produced a foreign protein which is then released into your bloodstream. NOT A SINGLE ONE. This is an entirely NEW technology, method of action and operates at the genetic manipulation level. That's worth a pause to discuss. I don't believe the oath I took authorizes my chain of command to manipulate me at the genetic level.
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SPC Jeremy A
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SGT (Join to see) - OH so since we're copy/pasting, let's do this!
How did you pass the NCO boards without being able to distinguish "MODIFICATION" from "MANIPULATION"? I never said anything was permanently changed. That's a BAD FAITH post there (Verify To See).
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A1C Michael Haggerty
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I know I would have had a dishonorable for this and you should too.
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TSgt 100% Va Disabled
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I can not say, but the best I can think of is a separated for the benefit of the military, worst case I could think of is bad conduct discharge. Both will block you from future service, but with a BCD, you can later apply to get it upgraded via VA. But, I am not sure with the craziness that has consumed this world. God bless and keep you well. I can tell you, that is you cast your cares and needs upon him and trust, He takes great delight in helping those whom lean upon him.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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I’m guessing here. You didn’t complete your contract so no honorable, it shouldn’t be a consideration. So I’d guess a general under honorable conditions. I don’t understand losing a career over a Pfizer FDA approved vaccine, your always in close contact, especially on a ship. You do what’s safe, the flu shot isn’t 100%, people have reactions, there’s no miracle bullet here you just do what you can.
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SPC Jeremy A
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NONE of the previous shots enter your cells, introduce created genetic material (mRNA) that your cells then use to produced a foreign protein which is then released into your bloodstream. NOT A SINGLE ONE. This is an entirely NEW technology, method of action and operates at the genetic manipulation level. That's worth a pause to discuss. I don't believe the oath I took authorizes my chain of command to manipulate me at the genetic level.
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SPC Jeremy A
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SGT (Join to see) - OH so since we're copy/pasting, let's do this!
How did you pass the NCO boards without being able to distinguish "MODIFICATION" from "MANIPULATION"? I never said anything was permanently changed. That's a BAD FAITH post there (Verify To See).
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