Posted on Mar 11, 2016
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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This question is for our Vietnam era Veterans here on RallyPoint. Share with us what your feelings were when you first received and opened your draft notice.

The Comments Here are Historical and Awesome!

What was your stance on the war? Explain your opinion

Did your parents put ideas into your head about the war that you didn't nessisarly believe in?
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SGT Philip Roncari
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I had already enlisted when my draft notice arrived in the mail,my feelings were that of a typical dumb nineteen year old I would live forever and how tough could the Army be ( Boy was I dumb) my stance on the war was one of a great adventure ,John Wayne and all that foolishness.Since my father served during WWII and my older brother was career AirForce ,it just was assumed that I served,I don't regret a single moment I wore the uniform,
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SSG Edward Tilton
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I had already been to Vietnam twice and had six years in when I got it.
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PVT Raymond Lopez
PVT Raymond Lopez
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SSG Edward Tilton I see there were still a few bugs in the system in your case too!
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CSM Thomas McGarry
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Interestingly I was in the last Draft drawing and was sequence #50, however Nixon cancelled the Draft prior to any call up. I enlisted however in 1978 and spent the next 36 years in the Active Army, NYSNG and Army Reserves. My opinion on the Vietnam War is that after Tet the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong forces were pretty much beat having lost a large number of soldiers. The War was lost on the home front especially when guys like Walter Cronkite announced after Tet that the War was lost-I've always considered him to be in essence an unindicted traitor!
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MSG Frederick Otero
MSG Frederick Otero
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Harsh words for a man that was in Europe during WWll and viewed the harsh realities of war from the front lines. I am not sure what that makes me since i was over there during Tet and even as a young soldier knew next to nothing about politics; i could see that the war was never going to be won the way it was being fought. So no to any view of Walter as a traitor. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. VIRIS ET HONOS
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CSM Thomas McGarry
CSM Thomas McGarry
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MSG Frederick Otero - I think if you read the history of this period you will see I'm correct, at least according to many historians-Not really a matter of agreeing or disagreeing just stating the facts-Try GOOGLING Walter Cronkite and the Tet Offensive and see what it tells you.
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MSG Frederick Otero
MSG Frederick Otero
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CSM McGarry: I will tell you that it took me ten years before i could even read a book about Vietnam but when i started i went in depth. I really do not need Google but i will make these recommendations. "In Retrospect" Robert S. McNamara, "Dereliction of Duty" H.R. McMasters You might look up the "Pentagon Papers". The reading will take time but might give you a different perspective. I would be more then willing to read any of the historians that you wish to forward to me and see if i can figure out where your perspective originates from. VIRIS ET HONOS
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MSgt George Cater
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Didn't get one. Like to say I got one in Vietnam, but I really don't recall one at all. I'd have saved it. LOL.
Enlisted in the Marines the September after HS graduation. Only waited that long cause I had a free month long trip to Canada on the International Air Cadet Exchange with Civil Air Patrol. If I'd been a draft dodging, long-haired, pot smoking hippie I guess I could've just stayed there.
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LCpl Stephen Arnold
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No time; my Senior Drill Instructor called me to the front of the platoon, made me open the notice which said "Mr. Arnold our records show you have not registered for selective service."

'YOU LITTLE DRAFT DODGING PIECE OF SHIT SCUMBAG COCK SUCKER, DROP!" And, as I pushed the ground towards China, I realized what a privilege it was to be a member of Platoon 1099, Bravo CO, 1st Recruit Training Battalion, Marine Corps Recruit Depot, San Diego.
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LCpl Stephen Arnold
LCpl Stephen Arnold
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I guess I should clarify; I was not Vietnam era; I got a selective service notification which I had failed to register for; I figured being enlisted in the Marine Corps at 17 was sufficient; boy was I wrong!
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Cpl Vic Burk
Cpl Vic Burk
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You weren't wrong the gov'ment was just all screwed up. I joined at seventeen, never received a notice (to my knowledge anyways).
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Sgt Daniel Martin
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I was in Nam and told the Col. that I was very sorry to inform him that I had to go home and due my duty. I was informed that I was to return to my duty station and the Col. would take care of my letter. Guess they could not find an SP who wanted to come to Nam and get me.
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SSgt Dale Darrough
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The year was early fall 1965. I had just started Junior College and after a couple of weeks I dropped a class, and as a result, had a pretty good idea my Draft notice would be coming soon. This was before the Lottery, and before all the protests, when Viet Nam was fairly popular. Sure enough, within a couple of weeks I received "Greetings from LBJ". I was actually pretty excited about the pending adventure ahead, and was ready to go. By Jan. 1966, I was on my way to Basic Training, and by May of 1966, at my first permanent duty assignment, I had already volunteered to go to Viet Nam. I landed in "R.V.N" in November of that same year.
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Sgt William Straub Jr.
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I never got a draft notice. I registered on 22Nov67. I enlisted in Feb of 69 and went active duty in July. The lottery came out in 70 and I think I was in Southeast Asia at the time. I never got a notice so I probably wouldn't have been drafted. But I was of the time when we thought the people in DC knew what they were doing and I felt a responsibility to the country for the freedoms I had. No regrets, though a little more honesty would have been appreciated. I would have gone in anyway. John Wayne complex and duty to country. I was young. Most likely to do it again if I was young enough.
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PO1 Aviation Machinist's Mate
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Never thought about the draft. Airborne Unassigned "64". Good decision. Whether the Intel people were "jerking everyone around" or the politicians were jerking the Intel people around, I had read enough about Dictators, Communism and Socialism to know that the spread was and is real, plus I kinda liked freedom, and my family so the decision was easy. In all honesty, I had no clue what war would do to me and as I found out, I wasn't the gung-ho kid from "64". Yeah, I'd do it again if I could go back as a 30 year old man. Here's a bit of info I will share only with Rally Point. A few years ago, I was having trouble sleeping so I saw the "miracle worker". The Dc had a Resident from Wake Forest Medical and she was Vietnamese. She said, I appreciate what you did and I said, I'm glad I can see some proof that the US, in spite of all the horror, had accomplished something positive and tangible. She ask, "What was that?" And I said "Seeing a woman from Viet Nam practicing medicine"
A bit of satisfaction Old Chap.
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Pvt SanJuana Méndez
Pvt SanJuana Méndez
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I've read deep into these comments before finding urs! I wz md to man who told me from Day One (we met as working patients, work-for-pay, V.A.) smatterings of 2 yrs' experience of his "tour of duty." I retrospect, I guess we were both naivetés fated to spend his remaining 16 yrs together, but that's another story for another time.

According to him, his number wz coming up soon(DOB, 4Oct1952) & recruiter said he could avoid being sent to 'Nam if he enlisted voluntarily. He enlisted (again, according to him) 1972, if ANYTHING on DD-214 cn be believed, 30Apr, on buddy plan. Lo & behold, learned as he received AIT assignment that he'd be training to go to 'Nam. Proof of his naiveté would not become apparent 'til 45 later, when he realized his entire military service history had been rewritten, disavowing combat service & POW status by means of nondisclosure statement he'd signed when discharged. According to DoD, he served 30Apr1974-8Mar1976.

This, of course, coz he died 9Aug2019, is for me to prove. Case in point, tho, is he told me abt hw so mny of our brothers & sisters were greeted when they returned home, whether or not they'd gone to 'Nam. Coz of this treatment, he wz quick to point out to everyone who thanked him for serving that he preferred being welcomed home. Moreover, he'd point out to people who called him hero that he wz only doing his job (I'd say, duty). He'd say heroes were those, like his buddy, who made ultimate sacrifice.

Two instances, both cathartic, meant so much to him in his final yrs. First wz when I accompanied him to U of Houston Optimetric School. Young Vietnamese man noticed his veteran's cover indicating he'd served in VN War. He approached my husband & asked to shake his hand. He thanked my husband for being one of those who helped rescue his parents from war, & saluted my husband.

Other instance occurred 29Mar2017. I'd told hubby Welcome Home ceremony wz scheduled at V.A. He'd told me he'd attend if he felt up to it. Fortunately, I wz slated for procedure & wz asked when wz most suitable. One time offered would have me there abt same time ceremony wz scheduled. Since procedure required my hvg someone there when it wz complete, he had to accompany me. As I prepared to "go under," I reasoned to him there wz no point in his sitting around doing nothing. I insisted he go to ceremony. Naturally, I missed ceremony but he wz so grateful that I insisted on his attendance. He wore pin he received there on his cover to his dying day.
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CPO Eugene Gillam
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I joined at 17 so never got one but I'm sure my response would have been the same as my response when I re-enlisted for the 1st time and got orders to Danang, Vietnam. It was not something I'd have wanted my mother to hear!

My parents didn't want me to enlist but had to sign for me...I wasn't going to go to college and they didn't want me lounging around the house.

As for my thoughts on the war...if we had been left to fight to win it would have been over and done with but the military was fighting with one hand tied behind their back, just like obama has us fighting now. As Nike says...just do it!
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