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Navy's top enlisted leader is wrapping up job title review. Intent is to remove "man" from job titles, such as corpsman, to make them gender neutral. All Air Force members are referred to as "airmen" and three enlisted ranks include "man" in their title. What would you suggest as an alternative to "airman"? (You can have fun with this, but serious alternatives also are appreciated.)
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The Warrior Song - Aer Vis (video with lyrics)
This is the same video as The Warrior Song - Aer Vis, but with added lyrical overlays so you can read along. To the United States Air Force, with our thanks....
Ok I need to say this. I am an Air Force Veteran, I am wondering where all the Air Force Leaders are? I am amazed that NOT one senior NCO or General officer is standing up for the History and Customs of the United States Air Force. The Title "Airmen" reflects the Types of jobs that we do and the "AIR" we defend. I have not seen or heard anyone especially female "Airmen" complain about being call Airmen. The problem is coming from the outside of the Air Force like ALL the civilians that have no idea on how the Military works. The Men and Women that serve this great nation have more character and are stronger then anyone else in this country. I classify Airmen like I classify Seamen for the navy and Marines for the Marines and Grunts for the Army. I have never heard anyone complain about the other services. I am proud to be an Airman even though I am not retired and I left before 20 years. People that are offended are to scared to serve and are haters of ALL military, period. But they are the first to call us when they need to be saved or protected. These antagonists are the ones that want things for free and they want to be controlled by the government. Or they want free stuff and not earn anything. I and others earned the title AIRMEN. The ones that want to change our speech are wimps and weak emotionally stunted. ((I was going to say PU**Y) But I may get banned or even call a bigot for that word.) Take a look at Emory College that had to set up "SAFE ZONES" because some one wrote "TRUMP 2016" on the sidewalk. That should explain everything we need to know about those that are offended by the Word(s) AIRMAN, TRUMP, BOSSY or any other statement that makes one fell hurt because I and other are smarter and use our brain to examine facts and not live in a fantasy world. Lets stand up to them and END POLITICAL CORRCTNESS or what I like to call CENSORSHIP OF SPEECH and THOUGHT. GOD Bless all AIRMEN past, present, and Future. Long live the US Air force.
PS here is a little something for all of you to listen to.
https://youtu.be/zzI3-73ELxw
PS here is a little something for all of you to listen to.
https://youtu.be/zzI3-73ELxw
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Sgt (Join to see)
US Air Force song - ( Wild Blue Yonder )
The Full Air Force Song, originally the Army Air Corps song, commonly called the Wild Blue Yonder.
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Sgt (Join to see)
If asked today to sacrifice my self for all here I would do it without thought. that is what we do no matter what. I am proud to be CALL AN AIRMEN.....
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Lt Col Jim Coe
Sgt (Join to see), we have several responses from Air Force Senior NCOs who are active duty. Looks like most of them would like us and the Air Force to focus on the mission instead of political correctness. I agree!
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Honestly, sir, nothing could possibly win over that term. Once an Airman, always an Airman. That is who I am, what I am, and it is what I always desire be. To me, changing the term "Airman" to something more gender friendly would make just much sense as changing the term "woman" to something more gender friendly would.
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Where ever the "Men" is replace it with "mate" as for the ratings use the such as Corpsman, it would fit in with all the others in use such Aviation Machinists mate and so on. in the case of the airfare they should go to what the Army and Marines do, just call them Private, Sargent and so on just drop the "Air" altogether.
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Sir, It should stay the way it is.
Here is the definition of "men"
noun, plural men.
1. an adult male person, as distinguished from a boy or a woman.
2. a member of the species Homo sapiens or all the members of this species collectively, without regard to sex: prehistoric man.
3. the human individual as representing the species, without reference to sex; the human race; humankind: Man hopes peace, but prepares for war.
4. a human being; person: to give a man a chance; When the audience smelled the smoke, it was every man for himself.
5. a husband.
6. a male lover or sweetheart.
7. a male follower or subordinate: the king's men. He's the boss's number one man.
As you can see, just like the statement "you guys", when used in generalization context it carries a general meaning and not a gender specific meaning. So no need to make it something its not.
Saying Airmen is just as respectful to women as it is to men.
Here is the definition of "men"
noun, plural men.
1. an adult male person, as distinguished from a boy or a woman.
2. a member of the species Homo sapiens or all the members of this species collectively, without regard to sex: prehistoric man.
3. the human individual as representing the species, without reference to sex; the human race; humankind: Man hopes peace, but prepares for war.
4. a human being; person: to give a man a chance; When the audience smelled the smoke, it was every man for himself.
5. a husband.
6. a male lover or sweetheart.
7. a male follower or subordinate: the king's men. He's the boss's number one man.
As you can see, just like the statement "you guys", when used in generalization context it carries a general meaning and not a gender specific meaning. So no need to make it something its not.
Saying Airmen is just as respectful to women as it is to men.
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I think some issues are worth fighting for. This is not one of them. It is a product of language that the word man has more than just its gender definition. Man has historically been used to refer to all the human race. Man comes from huMAN , or all of huMAN kind.
We should spend more time on actual issues of equality and inclusion. That being said, I don't think we need terms to distinguish between branches on that level. Soldier is a sufficient descriptor in my mind for all military men and women.
We should spend more time on actual issues of equality and inclusion. That being said, I don't think we need terms to distinguish between branches on that level. Soldier is a sufficient descriptor in my mind for all military men and women.
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in the navy they are sailors, in the army they are soldiers, in the marines they are jarheads..oops, devil dogs, in the air force they are airmen...this is how they are referred to in the collective..you can personalize a little with " air man" or "air woman"(singular, not plural)..but the rank of lower enlisted is airman, and the whole air force (enlisted and officers) are airmen..it also differentiated the ranks when we split from the army in '47 (not private,corporal)....don't even consider "AIR-PERSON"...we are huMAN...not huWOMAN or huPERSON....get real people, not ridiculus
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I can't resist this one. I have to give another service branch a jab. How about Airhead?
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