Posted on Apr 27, 2016
What would you do if your CSM was ignoring uniform and grooming standards? (CSM Flournoy)
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So this CSM from the the 8th MP BDE seems to be out of regulations. From the comments she has been corrected but she claims she is being harassed. I don't even understand how she got to be a CSM at a BDE. What COL out there is letting this happen? In one of the photos she is wearing stilettos in uniform. WTF? What kind of example is this. The worst is from a Facebook user that said:
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
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Wow, I hope that someone corrects her and her attitude real soon. She is an embarrassment to that whole Brigade. For all that she has accomplished I would hate for her to ruin all that by acting like she has retired on AD.
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This retired SSG would have talked to her about her hair. Wrong is wrong no matter the rank, and we are "supposed" to take care of each other, especially squared away in uniform. Men are afraid to tell her, and she might seem unapproachable to some. Better than that, everybody deployed has a weapon and she might have lost her mind.
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SP6 Linda Wilson-Sterling
Two more things, the average man is not going to say anything to her out of fear, because she can cry that she is being targeted because she is a woman, and pull the "sexual harrassment card. Lastly, is she Active, Guard, or Reserves? Her status makes a big difference.
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CPT Russell Pitre
She is regular Army. She has been approached many times but then she attacks those that correct her. When that happens they back away out of fear of an EO or Sharp complaint.
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MAJ Hugh Blanchard
One of the best fellow officers in one of my intelligence units in Germany was a woman and she did all of her fellow male officers in our unit an ENORMOUS favor. Linda created a guide for junior leaders, based on the regulations, that clearly displayed the standards and limits of appearance, grooming, hairstyle and jewelry for our female soldiers. She said she had gotten annoyed at watching us get buffaloed and bamboozled by our female soldiers not meeting standards. Linda was a great soldier, and the unit's standards noticeably improved after she briefed the commander and he okayed the distribution of her guide. But for that kind of thing to work, everyone has to abide by the same standards, and that means everyone...
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Shame is not harsh enough! Any leader who doesn't put the needs of his/her soldiers above their own is a DISGRACE! I don't care the race or sex of a leader; enough with the BS going on in today's Military. Know the Example, Be the Example, Lead by Example! If not get out before you get someone's 'Loved One' injured or killed!
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Apparently SMA Dailey's mantra of "Arguably, the highest performing squads in our formation are those that are built upon trust: trust in their leaders, and trust in one another.This is the essential element of 'Not In My Squad'." isn't being followed. As veterans we continually hear stories of how toxic the NCO Corp has become throughout the Army. This needs to stop ASAP!!! Someone please cowboy the fuck up and straighten this cluster fuck out!!!
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We all know the situation. Seen it before. She's bulletproof as a protected class. Never should have been a Sergeant much less a Sergeant Major. Too many times.
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The time has come replace "Affirmative" Action with "Decisive" Action.
The best effort gets the job!
The first "Action" step has been taken to task as "Affirmative" Action. Now is the time for the second step "Decisive" Action is long over-due.
America has passed the "tipping" point of Affirmative Action. Decisive Action will promote fair and balanced decisions based on qualifications with results.
The best effort gets the job!
The first "Action" step has been taken to task as "Affirmative" Action. Now is the time for the second step "Decisive" Action is long over-due.
America has passed the "tipping" point of Affirmative Action. Decisive Action will promote fair and balanced decisions based on qualifications with results.
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I'll tell you what I wouldn't do, and that is post anything containing pics, name or command information on any social media. I understand the frustration expressed by many here and on other social media, but the military, but it's still not the appropriate place to air things like this in the open.
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Is this type of behavior becoming a trend? We have a MSG out of control. No matter how many people complain about him the CSM at Bde closes ranks to project "one of their own."
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CPT Russell Pitre
That is just crap. The NCO Corps is not what it used to. It is more of a good ol boy
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There has been some pictures that surfaced with her wearing two stars on her NDSM. I'm a little confused at how a CSM doesn't know how many accouterments to wear and how to wear them. She holds promotion boards does she not?
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