Posted on Apr 27, 2016
CPT Russell Pitre
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So this CSM from the the 8th MP BDE seems to be out of regulations. From the comments she has been corrected but she claims she is being harassed. I don't even understand how she got to be a CSM at a BDE. What COL out there is letting this happen? In one of the photos she is wearing stilettos in uniform. WTF? What kind of example is this. The worst is from a Facebook user that said:

"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."

What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?

What should the Army do about this?

(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)

**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
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SFC Charles Temm
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so what happened in the end?

Sadly saw many examples of standards so high they were doubled while serving and even as a retiree. Addressed what I could (usually got told to take a flying leap or pound sand) and tried to soldier on regardless of the outcome.
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SSG Don Maggart
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Guess she never got Her head down with a wrench working on a Power-Pack...laffs....MilitantCrip
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PO1 James White
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A Failure of Leadership.
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SPC Byron Skinner
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Sp4 Byron Skinner I can't disagree with CMS Michael Poll. I can only add that Immediate action should be made to remove this CSM for the unit and to have her fill out retirement papers.
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CPT Wes Marsh
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Back in my day, if on Bde staff, I would have a word with the Bde XO, if in the Bns, perhaps a word with Bn Cdr or Bn SGM. But I'm sure they would already know.
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SSG Ruben Montiel
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If this happened like the soldier says it did, the CSM should be hit HARD, I am talking hit Big League.....
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SCPO Don Baker
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Spotted a MCPO wearing long sleeve wash khaki aboard NAVBASE San Diego with anchors on incorrectly. Had no problem calling him out on the issue. Instead of doing the right thing and saying "thank you, Senior" and letting me correct the problem, he said it wasn't a big deal and left. I followed him back to his command and let a member of his mess know.
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2LT Lou J Apa
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Would counsel the CSM to read the regs. on proper grooming and act on that reg. NOW!!
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MSgt Jj Fox
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Sidebar where the infraction is addressed and corrected. If an attitude is thrown my way, then up the chain it goes!
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CWO3 Us Marine
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It's sad but an issue for her Chain of Command. As to who can correct, anybody can, but as to who should that's a call for the individual. It's best not to correct a senior unless you have your ducks in a row and it requires tact, but is not outside the realm of possibility. The worst part is that we look to our leaders to set the example and when they don't they leave themselves open to scrutiny from anyone within the unit. I never encountered a USMC SgtMaj that didn't set the example for appearance, conduct, or leadership. Some were better than others but none ever presented themselves as anything that was even questionable. To be fair, some at the end of their career weren't as thin and trim as they were 20 plus years before but they were always within the standards. The only time I had to make a call on a senior SNCO stemmed from a 1stSgt. He was getting close to the end of his service and had opted to designate as 1stSgt rather than MSgt because of the ability to be promoted sooner. So he was not necessarily the exemplary type that we associate with a Command billet. He was near his end of service and was transitioning to his future job. He obtained a recall roster from the BN and was cold calling Officers at their home to sell them insurance. I told him on the phone to not call back and that I thought he was out of line and would be hearing about it. I notified the BN SgtMaj, who quickly squared him away before he retired a few months later. There are always exceptions to the rule, but in the case of this SgtMaj someone needs to have a serious chat with her about the responsibilities of her grade and billet.
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