Posted on Jan 7, 2016
What would you do if your Sergeant didn't know how to load a magazine?
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I just saw this video and felt like I was watching a multi-car accident on the interstate. It just got worse as it went on. What made it so bad as this was a SGT. The Safety was professional as he could be. Hats off to him. When I heard her say "I'm not Active Duty" I would have kicked her off the range. I am glad the Safety told her that she was a soldier and that he was a reservist too. If I was her CO I would have do everything I could to reduce her. But I think if you have a NCO like this in your unit the unit itself has a lot of issues in the first place. What kills me also is that she has a combat patch.
What would you have if you were the Safety?
Just so you know that you know it is believed that they Safety was a SSG just the same as was the soldier trying to load the mag.
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What would you have if you were the Safety?
Just so you know that you know it is believed that they Safety was a SSG just the same as was the soldier trying to load the mag.
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While this is humiliating to the Corps of NonCommisioned Officers,it is the unit that needs to be examined.
I am currently apart of a detachment, this being said, for the most part we play by big boy and girl rules such as; mission above all else. We are short manned and overworked, this training in basic soldier skills is pushed to the side to ensure we can accomplish our mission. But, we do not EVER miss the opportunity to train each and every soldier under us in what is at least a basic requirement for service
I am currently apart of a detachment, this being said, for the most part we play by big boy and girl rules such as; mission above all else. We are short manned and overworked, this training in basic soldier skills is pushed to the side to ensure we can accomplish our mission. But, we do not EVER miss the opportunity to train each and every soldier under us in what is at least a basic requirement for service
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Send his ass back to boot camp, or send him to the Navy where he won't be around firearms.
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Remedial training. My question is “How the hell did she get promoted”? How did she make it out of basic? This in my days was failure to progress which can stall promotions. Did this individual go through PLC/PLDC? This is a poor excuse from the 1SG down to the squad leader. If this individual is in any type of leadership position, I think as a first shirt, it’s time to put someone else in that leadership role. Maybe assign a mentor trainer. There is a solution an$ it’s up to fellow NCOs to not allow this NCO to fail. This is especially important within the NCO leadership.
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What's the old adage? Praise in public, punish in private! Although as a old retired "Puddle Pirate" who knows how to load, even loading and firing a Ma Deuce. By the time someone reaches the rank of Sergeant they should know the basics; however not knowing her MOS, job, or training - I'd cut her some (not a lot though) slack; then see the next paragraph. I know that in Basic (I was in Navy Boot Camp) we were exposed to the M1 Garand then sent to the range to shoot. Somehow Sarge either forgot what she learned in Basic or she really didn't know how to load a magazine.
I'd pull her off to the side, ask her if she is sure she knows how to load a magazine, then show her. I would also ensure that she fully understands that range safety is paramount...
I'd pull her off to the side, ask her if she is sure she knows how to load a magazine, then show her. I would also ensure that she fully understands that range safety is paramount...
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I don't consider it professional conduct to rag on the Guard or Reserve. that having been said, I find it hard to believe she went through basic without knowing how to load a magazine. There has to be something more going on here
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I am shocked by the response of all these officerS and senior enlisted. Granted, I served at a different time (Vietnam) but to have a Sgt that doesn't know how to load a magazine???? That person is a danger to herself and all those around her! I am literally stunned at the excuses made for her. Times sure have changed! I believe that poor training, lax attitude and the concern for sensitivity is a major component of increase of suicide in solders. I served with the infantry (LRRP) in Vietnam. Solders that were not well trained, disciplined and mentally prepared did not fair well. The concern that I am reading about embarrassing the Sgt and minimizing the seriousness of what happened is inexcusable. To hear this coming from senior officers and senior NCOs? The enemy could care less about your sensitivity.
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This would be my response to her. "Get the Hell off my line until you learn what you're supposed to be doing out here!"
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About a week or two before the start of the Iraq War (Feb/Mar 2003), I was teaching classes on how to clear a 9mil and how to put on MOPP gear. It does not surprise me that this is the case when talking about Reservists, depending on their Rate/MOS.
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If she was on a range that I was running, she would un-ass my range, ringht now, and not come back until she had proper PMI, no ifs, ands or buts.
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Active duty, reserve, or National Guard all share one thing in common, all go through the same basic training and AIT. She would have learned how to load a magazine in basic. For a lame response as the one she had, would have landed her in hot water with me. As for a previous comment, wasn't PMI conducted prior to the range?
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Personally I don't think we should post this stuff on the internet, although I did get a chuckle... Absolutely not making excuses for her, an NCO should be held accountable for knowing something as basic as loading a weapon. But I put more blame on her leadership for not knowing the capabilities of their Soldiers. I'd like to see her NCOIC or 1SG on video explaining how she was not properly trained or tested.
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I do not understand the picture or comments. What magazine, on a mg, all I see is a loader or spotter on a mg range??? Are they talking about a different picture?
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Ohhhhh, say it isn’t so!
Her and her entire NCO support channel are in need of a CSM Plumley.
Her and her entire NCO support channel are in need of a CSM Plumley.
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Two thoughts, treat them like the village idiot, or get someone to show them or even do it your self. I confess, if you asked me about certain software programs, I would go to a Private for advice. As they are brought up in this. Now if he got cockey, I would have drive an old M35A2 manual shifting, no power anything, with a water buffalo and ask him to park the buffalo on line. FYI that is not punishment, well maybe not.
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Remedial training. A lot of national guard people only even see their weapon once a year, and when they do the magazines are pre-loaded. It's lame, but a big part of the problem is that there just isn't enough time in the day for guard and reserve to accomplish all the required training. Marksmenship is pushed out by things like Environmental Briefs, and other stuff.
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Not being active should not make any difference, Reserve Units are supposed to qualify I believe 2 times per year, now one of those may be on the EST system if they haven't changed any thing. So unless her unit is not following training doctrine what is her excuses.
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I would have a team member work with the Sgt, knowing if you don't keep your training up, you will forget what to do.
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