Posted on Dec 22, 2013
1SG Michael Blount
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<p>Let me posit two caveats:</p><p>1. I ALWAYS address officers (whether commissioned or Warrant) as "Sir", "Ma'am" or by their rank</p><p>2. I always publicly addressed NCOs by their rank.&nbsp; In private conversations, it may be another story</p>
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CMC Robert Young
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<p>Officers always by rank and last name; no exceptions. </p><p><br></p><p>Enlisted people; if it's just the duty section onboard the unit things are&nbsp;more informal and the first names pop out as long as nobody else is around particularly among peer groups. However, in any public setting, rank and last name. </p>
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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That's been a recurring theme on this question, SCPO. 
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SFC Unit Readiness Nco
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In 20+ years of service I have made it a practice to address all superiors by their proper rank and last name. When addressing peers and subordinates I always use their rank and last name or simply their last name. In my opinion when young Soldiers see "old heads" such as myself showing proper respect to superiors and addressing subordinates properly they will do the same. One of the major issues I see in the Army (Active Duty, Reserves and National Guard included) today is lack of dicipline by junior NCO's and lower enlisted Soldiers. In my opinion if we get back to the basic principles that we were taught years ago our Soldiers will follow suit. Well off of my soap box. My answer is simple, there is never a good time to address another Soldier by his/ her first name. I even correct my superiors when they call me "Donne" by simply stating "SFC Cook" and they quickly get the point.
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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Thanks for the post, SFC.  I'm guessing you're from a line unit?
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SFC Fire Support Specialist
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CSM Blount, I agree with you and the majority of those who responded here. Situation dictates. When I was a SGT, there was a group of SGT's that I hung out with that in private we would call each other by first names but never in public and never around our Soldiers. As a SSG there was a Mortar Section Sergeant that he and I were the same way. As a SFC, not until I was assigned to an AC/RC unit (50 personnel in my BN) we are the same, sometimes in private, never in public. One of our buddies was recently promoted to MSG, the first name thing stopped with him when he put on the rank. It has been, sometimes in private and never in public for my entire NCO career. 

I will say that the very first time a fellow NCO asked me what my first name was, I replied "Sergeant". It took me a little while to get out of the conditioning that this was not an acceptable practice. I think that the size of the unit and the closeness of the people in it are really what drive the decision for NCO's to begin to call each other by first names. 
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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SFC Day - sounds like we're reading from the same sheet and responded the same way. 
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When do you go to a first-name basis with people?
1SG David Niles
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Those in my "lane" by first name in private, by rank in public. Officers "never" unless you are in the "Guard" and off of drill status. Different culture. 
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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Excellent rule of thumb, Top, and for reasons well known  and documented
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SFC Jason Porter
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Edited 12 y ago
CSM B, I personally never used first names during my career, that was something I was taught from day one for the place of business . I believe what ever command that he or she is in steers that breeze so to speak. I know officers use first name basis from the top down quite a bit never bottom to up. I always felt using a Soldiers rank in front of their last name was the standard. Again this varies across the services.
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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Using officers' first names are absolutely out of bounds.  Yah, alot of the first name stuff is a function of the unit climate and type.  Some units (eg SOF, MARSOC) use first name in the field but never in the public eye in garrison.  This whole question has had some interesting answers, but nice to know I guessed right for a change
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CSM Blount,

 

In my career field (fire protection) we tend to have a first name basis unless we are in a public environment. While at the station we will call each other by first name, last name, or nicknames (mine being Hurricane) since we spend more time with these guys than with our own family. I personally don't call anyone by their first name, I always call them what they are (Airman, Sergeant, Chief) and their last name, even the civilians I call by their last name. I know a few NCOs that call me by my first name but since I am just an E-3 I respect the NCOs and SNCOs they earned their rank. We don't have much interaction with officers so when there is an interaction with officers so when we do it is always Rank and last name.

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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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Good point, Hurricane.  Unit size plays a HUGE role in the first-name thing. So does proximity to the public or whether there's somebody important within earshot
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1SG First Sergeant
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I have always used rank and last name with officers. With enlisted, in a off duty status then I'll use just their last name. I will call peers by the first name.
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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Sounds like a page out of my well-thumbed playbook, MSG
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Lt Col Intelligence
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It is a bit context dependent (culture of the unit, culture of the service, culture of the career field, culture of the base).  The generic rule, going to back to right after commissioning and I got to my first duty station was with officers, "one up, one down, unless they tell you otherwise.  Callsigns if they tell you to.  O-6's - never."

I've been in units where I've felt comfortable calling my subordinates by their first names, others where I haven't.  It depends on the culture, the esprit, what's going on in the unit.  A place where the unit has its stuff pretty wired, you can be a bit more relaxed.  A place that's trying to pull itself together and fix itself, not so much.
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SSG Mark Franzen
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I would say that I would never do I always respect the rank of the person that I am talking to Except if he is the same grade as I am. SSG MARK FRANZEN VET
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SGT Richard Anselment
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