Posted on Jun 16, 2021
When is it "ok" for soldiers to deblouse while in garrison?
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Having been at Ft Bliss (dry heat) and now being at Ft Riley (Very humid heat) when is it acceptable for soldiers to modify the uniform? We are hitting heat cat 3 & 4 every day now and there's many solders (including my wife's unit) who work outside all day every day right under the sun which is tough. Up until recently there has been no issue with them (this specific unit is a UAS platoon so they're on an air strip for hours) taking off their tops due to the extreme heat. Recently they were told "Army policy says you're allowed to roll sleeves not take off tops so no more taking them off." Knowing a bit about how regs work there is no "Army policy" but rather a regulation that leaves it up to the local commander to decide (which is usually overruled by crusty grumpy 1SG's for no reason at all).
So my question is, because I can't find supporting regs to try and help out, when is it acceptable for soldiers to remove tops? Is it just never? Is it a local call from someone willing to take the heat round because at the end of the day as NCOs we are responsible for the welfare of our soldiers?
I am somewhat hoping a medical person will chime in with the heat index recommendations or something along those lines but overall I'm curious on your thoughts.
So my question is, because I can't find supporting regs to try and help out, when is it acceptable for soldiers to remove tops? Is it just never? Is it a local call from someone willing to take the heat round because at the end of the day as NCOs we are responsible for the welfare of our soldiers?
I am somewhat hoping a medical person will chime in with the heat index recommendations or something along those lines but overall I'm curious on your thoughts.
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When it makes sense.
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Be careful of anything you post, there's nothing you can write that prying eyes won't see and use against you anymore, no such thing as freedom of speech, the government and V.A. will use everything against you. I know that for a fact.
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The Army keeps playing games with the publications numbering system so I won't even try to cite pubs numbers, but the Army has publications on Prevention of Heat Injuries and on operations in various climates.
Also Ft Riley has AMEDD people who are supposed to know about things like heat and cold.
Even on posts where the sanity of upper leaders might be dubious, it is very rare not to find post policies on such matters. Two minutes scanning through the post Index of Policy Letters (or whatever your post calls it this week) should locate a reference.
What you find might not be exactly what you want to be told, but has a very good chance of making more sense that what you say you are being told.
Also Ft Riley has AMEDD people who are supposed to know about things like heat and cold.
Even on posts where the sanity of upper leaders might be dubious, it is very rare not to find post policies on such matters. Two minutes scanning through the post Index of Policy Letters (or whatever your post calls it this week) should locate a reference.
What you find might not be exactly what you want to be told, but has a very good chance of making more sense that what you say you are being told.
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You answered your own question. It's up to the base commander and enforced by the NCO.
Your wife must do what they tell her .. this is the army , not the cub scouts . Don't go about looking for ways to not obey orders ,
Your wife must do what they tell her .. this is the army , not the cub scouts . Don't go about looking for ways to not obey orders ,
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We always went by the wet ball. Once it hit the black level if you are working outside. We would go to the brown t-shirt.
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In the mid-'80's. I was assigned to an Engineering BDE HQ Company, we wore the Woodland BDU's. Those were sort of baggy-looking. The BDE CSM set down a mandate BDE-wide.... all NCO's, CPL, and above were to wear Split Shined Boots, Bloused Pants, and a Pistol Belt around the waist. I always thought that he had made that Baggy-Ugly Uniform look much better.
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I literally take my blouse off the second I get to work and put it back on if I leave to go to lunch. If you don’t know my name, you don’t need to
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In the barracks or physical detail and PT then it is probably ok. Otherwise the proper wearing of the uniform is always mandatory, unless the command structure informs you otherwise.
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let me mention that in the n.african desert heat, locals put on layers for protection . they only wear light clothing to imitate westerners . touaregs and other nomads did not remove clothing while travelling . it is a matter of insulating and ventilation . wearing od, synthetic fabric, in the tx sun was an ordeal in my days . i have no idea how current uniforms fared in the mideast .
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