Posted on Nov 19, 2015
When stolen valor shaming goes horribly wrong. Your Thoughts?
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This should never ever happen.
Disabled Veteran
Marines
Vietnam War
Stolen Valor
Posted 9 y ago
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SPC George Rudenko Like I said in another thread like this one: I'd rather let 10 fake fuckers have their un-earned valor (because they'll know forever they didn't earn it and it will burn, deep inside), than to take it from ONE SINGLE vet who DID earn it.
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Sgt Thomas Proctor
SPC Paul Garcia - Should someone question my military service, I just reach into my wallet and pull out the wallet size, laminated copy of my DD214, which was issued to me at the time of my separation from the USAF in March 1963 at Travis AFB. This immediately clears everything up and prevents a lot of unwelcome disscussion.
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SPC Troy Shelby
In ABQ NM Stolen Valor is almost common place especial among the homeless and there are usually tell tail signs but instead of attacking them outright because I could in cases be mistaken I will usually start a conversation with them to ascertain truth with simple questions of where were you stationed what theater were u in and what was your MOS Most Veterans can answer these simple questions without difficulty and when I find that someone is not actually a veteran I will tell them look I know your lying do us both a favor, and give me (whatever they have identifying them as a veteran when their not)and usualy they do if not than I may expose them to others that are around of course the most obvious fake I ever met was wearing a navy hat and said he was in the navy but he was a ranger stationed at Wright Patterson AFB. Um What??? are you kidding me? that guy just had it coming. but I give him credit for creativity.
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I opened a discussion on this same incident. Needless to Say I am Pissed at how those Marines Acted .They have brought Shame to themselves and tarnished Our Beloved Corps. If it was up to me Brigg time while they await their Big Chicken Dinner! I am so mad I posted it on all the Marine Corps Pages I am a member of. If you aren't sure do not attack! Hell look at the Jacket he's holding, he wasn't trying to be in regs. On Veterans day there are my old Vets that put their stuff on their Blazers and Jackets. They are not being Disrespectful, they can't fit or no longer have their dress uniforms and just want to show their Pride in their Service. Everyone's on a F-ing Witch hunt these days.
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LCpl Michael Voeks
100% agreed, LCpl Smith! I no longer fit in any of my uniforms but I wear my blouse (without chevrons, ribbons, etc) on special occasions only. I grew up around Vietnam vets doing the same thing, so O've always seen it as "pride with discretion."
These Marines should absolutely have an NJP swinging their way. I'm sure the majority of Marines here have made mistakes, myself included, but to be so publicly obnoxious without knowledge is unacceptable.
These Marines should absolutely have an NJP swinging their way. I'm sure the majority of Marines here have made mistakes, myself included, but to be so publicly obnoxious without knowledge is unacceptable.
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Kathy Shingleton
PO1 George Rae lol! You win the answer today! I remember my Dad saying the same thing!
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Ralph Konderchek
I believe that if someone poses as a military officer, personnel, ect, just to make themselves look important or impressive, the punishment should be the same as if a civi posed as a law enforcement officer but let the DOD deal out the punishment not civilian courts or judges. It's the same situation, posing as a law enforcement officer or posing as military personnel, but I believe posing as military personnel should be more severe.
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This sort of ridiculous behavior is exactly why I think it's worthy of NJP to cause a scene confronting suspected Stolen Valor. More and more, we hear or read of stories like this, where some asshole young buck decides to assault an old veteran, citing discrepancies with their uniform as if uniform codes haven't changed in the last 40 years. Veterans need to be less insecure with themselves and learn to brush it off; if the guy isn't trying to profit from faking veteran status, it really and truly isn't a big deal. It's mostly mentally ill people seeking attention, the kind they believe they could have achieved if they'd been like their heroes, or old guys who served with honor and simply don't have their uniform together.
Unless someone is lying about their combat experiences to make money or steal from the VA, I really couldn't care less about Stolen Valor, and this is exactly why.
Unless someone is lying about their combat experiences to make money or steal from the VA, I really couldn't care less about Stolen Valor, and this is exactly why.
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Cpl Benjamin Long
MSG Thomas Currie Report to someone? That's very ambiguous.. Do you think I am going to walk into the Pentagon and give the janitor a complaint... that's very stupid...
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Cpl Benjamin Long
MSG Thomas Currie And you forgot about the whole assaulting a civilian thing... The civilian police are probably going to put a warrant out from their local court for the assault in their city...
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Cpl Benjamin Long
MSG Thomas Currie Are you saying that you got the name of a person that beat the shit of you and report him to a command you don't know about.... Again you're assuming you have information you don't have...
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