Posted on Jul 28, 2015
When will the Navy change its camo pattern?
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The Army is introducing a new camo pattern. When do you see the Navy deciding to change its camo?
Navy
Camouflage
Uniforms
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When some admiral decides they need another star and justification for it.
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They just need to stop changing the uniforms. We go through more uniforms than every other branch put together.
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We've been through far too many, but I'm not sure we have the Army beat on that count...
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I gotta agree with PO1 (Join to see), the ammount of Dress Uniforms alone that the Navy has confuses the heck out of those of us in the other branches, not to mention the rules for wearing them. The Army may have gone through more uniform changes, but you guys have the most uniforms in general, haha.
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As I understand it, the Navy chose the color blue so that stains gained from running and maintaining a ship wouldn't be visible. I still don't understand why they simply didn't adopt MARPAT.
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LCDR (Join to see)
LTC Paul Labrador Sir you're correct on why the color scheme was chosen. Different colors are used when actually in combat/theater operations.
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CDR Laurel Meadows
In my basement I have a footlocker for my desert, woodland and Army cammies. I'm just glad I retired before I added a fourth footlocker for these. I'm not sure what you are hiding in or from wearing these.
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LT Daniel Kuttner
Ex-Navy officer here. Yes, that's what puzzles me. Why have a uniform that makes it harder to spot a man overboard? Plus, unlike the old bell-bottoms, you can't make water-wings out of the trou.
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Granted, I'll take BDU's over dungarees any day of the week. I hated dungarees; they always made me feel like a convict. That being said, I believe that the 12 uniforms per branch (yes, a slight exaggeration) is a budgetary sinkhole that we could get rid of.
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LCDR (Join to see)
PO3 David Fries Off the top of my head I don't think you're very off with 12...
Dinner Dress Blue Jacket
Dinner Dress White Jacket
Service Dress Blues
Choker Whites
Summer Whites
Khakis (or black and tans)
Working Khakis (not 100% sure this is still current, may have been replaced by NWUs)
NWUs
That's actually significantly less than I was thinking. When you add in the Naval Academy ones it gets worse though:
Summer Blues
Winter Blues
White Works (similar to cracker jacks)
Full Dress Blues
Any others I missed?
Dinner Dress Blue Jacket
Dinner Dress White Jacket
Service Dress Blues
Choker Whites
Summer Whites
Khakis (or black and tans)
Working Khakis (not 100% sure this is still current, may have been replaced by NWUs)
NWUs
That's actually significantly less than I was thinking. When you add in the Naval Academy ones it gets worse though:
Summer Blues
Winter Blues
White Works (similar to cracker jacks)
Full Dress Blues
Any others I missed?
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PO3 David Fries
LCDR, the only ones to add would be the ones those of us that were allowed(and elected) to go Marine Regs. That would add;
Marine Corp Alphas
Marine Corps Charlies
Marine Corp Alphas
Marine Corps Charlies
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So if you are in the water in a uniform I am thinking it is not a good thing EVER! Wouldn't you want to be seen? I mean so that somebody in some type of water displacing vessel could stop the floating in the water from becoming bloating in the water. Just a thought?
They could go to the ACU. You can't hide from shit in that outfit. Just the wrong enough color that you blend into absolutely nothing.
They could go to the ACU. You can't hide from shit in that outfit. Just the wrong enough color that you blend into absolutely nothing.
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PO1 John Miller
SGT William Howell
This theory has been shot down numerous times. "If you're wearing blue and you fall into the water you won't be seen." It just isn't true. All Navy working uniforms prior to the NWU Type 1's (for E-6 & below anyway) were BLUE. Utilities, dungarees, the utilities from the 70's, etc. A lot of people who work on the flight deck also wear blue jerseys. Furthermore, NWU Type 1's are currently only worn while in port, coveralls (which are also blue) are the underway uniform for all hands. So not much of a chance of falling overboard in port unless you're really trying.
Yet no one has ever said "Hey, those uniforms will make you invisible if you fall overboard."
This theory has been shot down numerous times. "If you're wearing blue and you fall into the water you won't be seen." It just isn't true. All Navy working uniforms prior to the NWU Type 1's (for E-6 & below anyway) were BLUE. Utilities, dungarees, the utilities from the 70's, etc. A lot of people who work on the flight deck also wear blue jerseys. Furthermore, NWU Type 1's are currently only worn while in port, coveralls (which are also blue) are the underway uniform for all hands. So not much of a chance of falling overboard in port unless you're really trying.
Yet no one has ever said "Hey, those uniforms will make you invisible if you fall overboard."
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SGT William Howell
But why not just go with Blaze Orange for the most part. There is 0 need for ship board camo of any kind.
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Not soon enough. The idea of Navy camo was, I think, well-intended upon conception. However, in the execution phase of Type I, pictured above, it failed miserably, not just due to its unsafe constitution, but also its rather unprofessional look. Type II and Type III are good to go, but only because they deviated drastically from the first incarnation. In short, I'd dump Type I as soon as is practically possible. With all that said, I think it's probably a good idea to stop these uniform reindeer games and get on with the business of rebuilding our military after many years of unnecessary expenditures and misallocation of resources.
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II and III are Woodland, I is the blueberry...
CPO Greg Frazho
II is actually desert pattern. III is the woodland variant. Both are digitized, as opposed to swirl, camo. As you can probably garner from the posted image, the Corps took exception to both flavors. Navy camp's on the left.
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All branches should have the same patterns etc. More and more our troops in all branches are deployed in a joint environment.
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Not to mention the greatly reduced acquisition costs...
Sgt Ken Prescott
I am reliably informed that the Good Idea Fairy actually got someone in AFSOC to propose giving each of the AFSOC specialties (pararescue, combat controller, and combat weather) its own unique camouflage pattern.
In other words, visually tell the enemy exactly who you are and what you're probably doing.
Fortunately, someone at AFSOC HQ had a spasm of common sense and killed that one.
In other words, visually tell the enemy exactly who you are and what you're probably doing.
Fortunately, someone at AFSOC HQ had a spasm of common sense and killed that one.
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CH (MAJ) William Beaver Of course they will... The Marines went digital... then Army with Universal (AKA useless), then USAF went with those goofy tiger stripes and green boots (?), and then the Navy with the blue camo (???).... Yes they will... I personally think they should wear bright colors in case they fall off a ship...
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Hopefully they will get rid of the camo pattern with the exception of the Seabees. I think it was one of the dumbest moves ever for the Navy, I mean its hard enough to find someone who goes overboard underway and a camo print, at least in my opinion is beyond stupid. I mean nothing like blending into your background even better after ending up in the water through misfortune and making it harder for search and rescue to find you. Its a good idea for ground troops but bad idea for sailors at sea.
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