Posted on Oct 11, 2014
When you regret choices - pro life vs pro choice.
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Thought I would add this as a separate topic to the "pro choice/life" discussion in case anyone else has experienced the same...
My (now) 2 yr old was born dead. He was on ECMO (heart lung bypass) for 10 days and wasn't getting better. We were told that he would most likely die and, best case scenario, would have severe to moderate cerebral palsy - meaning a life in a wheel chair. At the time, I said, "look for organ recipients" and lets end it. My wife is a catholic and wouldn't let me do that. He's now 2 and running around like a maniac with no issues.
My point in this rant - be careful of your choices. I'm very pro-choice, but sometimes our beliefs get in the way and we make choices because it's what we "believe" vs reality. Be cautious of things like right to die and do not resuscitate. Don't end up on the wrong side of that choice. Atheists can be as wrong in their beliefs as religious people.
My (now) 2 yr old was born dead. He was on ECMO (heart lung bypass) for 10 days and wasn't getting better. We were told that he would most likely die and, best case scenario, would have severe to moderate cerebral palsy - meaning a life in a wheel chair. At the time, I said, "look for organ recipients" and lets end it. My wife is a catholic and wouldn't let me do that. He's now 2 and running around like a maniac with no issues.
My point in this rant - be careful of your choices. I'm very pro-choice, but sometimes our beliefs get in the way and we make choices because it's what we "believe" vs reality. Be cautious of things like right to die and do not resuscitate. Don't end up on the wrong side of that choice. Atheists can be as wrong in their beliefs as religious people.
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CW5 (Join to see) I've heard from magicians that people with the most education are the easiest to fool. We "think" we know. People with the most "beliefs" are also the easiest to fool. As a medical guy, I thought I knew what was best with my son - let him die. All the docs at Georgetown said the same. This is a lesson in how much us "professionals" know.
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Great "story" (in quotes because it's your life, not really a story). It's wonderful that your son came through the ordeal healthy.
I'm pro-life (anti-abortion), but I agree with you that beliefs can get in the way. You know the anecdotes, similar to yours, actually. I was recently reading about Tim Tebow and how people were pressuring his mother to abort him, I think because she was not really in a position to care for a child. She fought back the pressure, and he turned out to be a somebody.
And I've seen it go the other way as well. A good Army buddy of mine and his wife had no reason to believe there would be any issues with their second child. She came into the world with severe Down syndrome. She's 21 now, but can't walk, can't talk. They are Catholic, and they held onto their faith as they raised their daughter. I can only imagine the sacrifices they had to make and the struggles they had to go through.
I'm pro-life (anti-abortion), but I agree with you that beliefs can get in the way. You know the anecdotes, similar to yours, actually. I was recently reading about Tim Tebow and how people were pressuring his mother to abort him, I think because she was not really in a position to care for a child. She fought back the pressure, and he turned out to be a somebody.
And I've seen it go the other way as well. A good Army buddy of mine and his wife had no reason to believe there would be any issues with their second child. She came into the world with severe Down syndrome. She's 21 now, but can't walk, can't talk. They are Catholic, and they held onto their faith as they raised their daughter. I can only imagine the sacrifices they had to make and the struggles they had to go through.
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I was off on the Tebow "story." It was a medical condition and the doctor recommended an abortion. His mother refused.
http://www.beyondtheultimate.org/athletes/Tim-Tebow.aspx
http://www.beyondtheultimate.org/athletes/Tim-Tebow.aspx
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Jennifer Lee (Doerflinger) Hill
Tough times, but I remember having one of our babies in the hospital & our sweet GP talked with us as we left, saying this one little baby's Mom hadn't been in even once to see her Down's baby. He said then, something that has resonated all the rest of my life: These babies bring so much joy to their family. They're a gift from God.
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MAJ Ian Dews, it takes courage to go through what you did but even more to share it so that others might gain from your experience. May you and your family forever be blessed with the gift and the opportunity you have been given. Thank you for sharing.
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MAJ (Join to see) , I am pro-life, and I believe that it was no small miracle that your son made such a turn-around.
You are very correct in our beliefs sometimes clouding our judgment and affecting the course we take. It is hard for us as human beings to take emotion out of the equation. It is awesome to hear that your son is running around like a maniac. I pray that you would have many more years of chasing him around as you watch him grow.
Thanks for sharing.
You are very correct in our beliefs sometimes clouding our judgment and affecting the course we take. It is hard for us as human beings to take emotion out of the equation. It is awesome to hear that your son is running around like a maniac. I pray that you would have many more years of chasing him around as you watch him grow.
Thanks for sharing.
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I got pregnant my first time. I was 16 & certainly had no intention of going that far.
My Mom insisted on an abortion; we couldn't sully the good name of our family. (Major irony) It destroyed me for a number of years & I'm vehemently pro-life. Some women think it will fix everything; instead, it wrecks your mind. Our govt tends to encourage young pregnant women to abort: it's cheaper.
When our son's former girlfriend was pg, we invited her to stay w us. I went with her to the State offices & they forced me to leave so they could push abortion. I told her we'd adopt the baby.
Unfortunately, she visited relatives in Canada & the Dr told her the baby was badly formed, so she aborted. Jim & I couldn't even walk into Wal-Mart, as they had baby items on display as you came in. We grieved that child for a long time.
Our son & his girlfriend were addicts. She was barely 16.
My Mom insisted on an abortion; we couldn't sully the good name of our family. (Major irony) It destroyed me for a number of years & I'm vehemently pro-life. Some women think it will fix everything; instead, it wrecks your mind. Our govt tends to encourage young pregnant women to abort: it's cheaper.
When our son's former girlfriend was pg, we invited her to stay w us. I went with her to the State offices & they forced me to leave so they could push abortion. I told her we'd adopt the baby.
Unfortunately, she visited relatives in Canada & the Dr told her the baby was badly formed, so she aborted. Jim & I couldn't even walk into Wal-Mart, as they had baby items on display as you came in. We grieved that child for a long time.
Our son & his girlfriend were addicts. She was barely 16.
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SGT James Hastings
I arrived with my mom and her 3rd husband in East Los Angeles in 1942, when 83% of my classmates spoke Mexican. I took Spanish but it’s different from Mexican, I guess and at that time, there were no classes in Mexican. Long story short,I learned how being a minority felt. It sucked, for me.
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MAJ (Join to see)
I am very much pro-life.
Bless you and your wife for your courageous (and right) decision. I am so very glad your son is OK.
I am very much pro-life.
Bless you and your wife for your courageous (and right) decision. I am so very glad your son is OK.
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I’m with you on this. God IS in control but gives us the right to make choices because WE live with the consequences. After my son’s mother had a miscarriage with our second child, because of her age(7 years older than I) she urged me to have my tubes tied. I did, and years later we divorced (my fault). I remarried but never had another child, which I regretted. Decisions are tough and sometimes have unforeseen consequences (just like life in general). So happy for you and your son!
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Jennifer Lee (Doerflinger) Hill
One of our younger son's girlfriend's parents decided, after vasectomy, to have another child, as their daughter was leaving home. Apparently, it was a painful procedure, but they had a little boy.
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SGT James Hastings
You are right. It wasn’t the pain consideration, for me. I survived an IED in 1951 in North Korea. That smarted! Now, I’m surviving radiation treatment on my mouth for tongue cancer. Life goes on. At 87, God still wants me here. I can live with that. (No joke intended). My speech is hard to understand and I spent the majority of my life (in work), talking to people. So, now I write. Mainly for myself to re-read, tear apart and correct. I read a lot and talk much less. I learned typing in the 7th grade and had my own computer
In 1990 but I don’t do Facebook much since all the arguing. Life is interesting, so far!
In 1990 but I don’t do Facebook much since all the arguing. Life is interesting, so far!
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
SGT James Hastings
You are 87 ? ! I am only 86!
The crosses we bear, the secrets we do not share, all will leave this earth with us, because we care!
You are 87 ? ! I am only 86!
The crosses we bear, the secrets we do not share, all will leave this earth with us, because we care!
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Pro-Choice
My body, my choice, my regrets….
Just like they say if you don't like smoking don't do it.
Don't like drinking don't do it.
Don't like abortions don't have one.
Myself do not ever want kids. Please everyone save yourself with the "You'll change your mind" or "It's just a phase". I'm not coming out as gay. This is a life decision I made long ago. Kids are NOT for everyone. Just as tattoos, the gym or anything else isn't for everyone. I don't like being fat or eating unhealthy but you don't see me forcing my way of life onto everyone.
I do everything that I can to prevent a child but if that case were to happen I would be miserable having one run around, which is nice to have that option to where if it does happen I can do it properly. Better then going behind an ally with a coat hanger, or forcing myself down some stairs for an oops.
I don't care what everyone is doing what they want with their OWN body so do not tell me what to do with mine. What ever chances I make it is my life to do with, not yours. Do not throw religion in this about god this or god that. God says ALOT OF THINGS and the bible is not a buffet where you pick and choose which rules you decide to live by and follow.
Those who say go thru with the pain & labor to put it up for adoption, there are enough kids needs a home why add yet another one to the list?
My body, my choice, my regrets….
Just like they say if you don't like smoking don't do it.
Don't like drinking don't do it.
Don't like abortions don't have one.
Myself do not ever want kids. Please everyone save yourself with the "You'll change your mind" or "It's just a phase". I'm not coming out as gay. This is a life decision I made long ago. Kids are NOT for everyone. Just as tattoos, the gym or anything else isn't for everyone. I don't like being fat or eating unhealthy but you don't see me forcing my way of life onto everyone.
I do everything that I can to prevent a child but if that case were to happen I would be miserable having one run around, which is nice to have that option to where if it does happen I can do it properly. Better then going behind an ally with a coat hanger, or forcing myself down some stairs for an oops.
I don't care what everyone is doing what they want with their OWN body so do not tell me what to do with mine. What ever chances I make it is my life to do with, not yours. Do not throw religion in this about god this or god that. God says ALOT OF THINGS and the bible is not a buffet where you pick and choose which rules you decide to live by and follow.
Those who say go thru with the pain & labor to put it up for adoption, there are enough kids needs a home why add yet another one to the list?
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SGT Suraj Dave
Regardless about abortion or not,
"My body, my choice, my regrets"
is completely not true. Try to self mutilate your own body, like cutting yourself. Or making the choice to vomit after your meals. Those are not choices, they are mental disorders. Just because it is your body, does not mean you can do anything without a consequence.
Lets keep religion out of this, though I am Catholic. I will be using more logical type debating.
I am not a women, I dont know what being pregnant is like.... but I am an honest and hopeful person. I think it would be the right thing to do to give that child a chance to live. Dave Thomas, the guy who created the Wendy's fast food chain, he was given up for adoption at Infancy. Look what he created! Malcolm X and Nelson Mandela were also orphans. even faith hill.. all given up as infants. So many more I can name...
I think every little kid deserves a chance at life. Just because you dont want him or her, doesn't mean that child is unwanted by the word or the rest of humanity. No women has to keep a child she doesnt want, the child can always be given up for adoption. Abortion occurs when bearing a child is an "inconvenience" for the parents, weather it be for social reasons, cosmetic reasons etc.. etc..
"My body, my choice, my regrets"
is completely not true. Try to self mutilate your own body, like cutting yourself. Or making the choice to vomit after your meals. Those are not choices, they are mental disorders. Just because it is your body, does not mean you can do anything without a consequence.
Lets keep religion out of this, though I am Catholic. I will be using more logical type debating.
I am not a women, I dont know what being pregnant is like.... but I am an honest and hopeful person. I think it would be the right thing to do to give that child a chance to live. Dave Thomas, the guy who created the Wendy's fast food chain, he was given up for adoption at Infancy. Look what he created! Malcolm X and Nelson Mandela were also orphans. even faith hill.. all given up as infants. So many more I can name...
I think every little kid deserves a chance at life. Just because you dont want him or her, doesn't mean that child is unwanted by the word or the rest of humanity. No women has to keep a child she doesnt want, the child can always be given up for adoption. Abortion occurs when bearing a child is an "inconvenience" for the parents, weather it be for social reasons, cosmetic reasons etc.. etc..
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I tattoo my body & pierce it. Those are choices that I live with forever as well, so it would be my choice if I wanted something growing inside of me gone asap!
To say every child deserves a chance at life you cannot compare to something that isn't even a "human being" at the point it is removed from the body. There are PLENTY of kids who need homes and a big amount of those kids live their life in a foster home waiting to never be adopted, it would be cruel to put yet another child through that. There are the 9mths of dealing with a pregnancy, 9mths someone can't stand or deal with. If they want to get rid of the child while abortion is illegal they will find some sort of alternate to disrupt the term and have a "miscarriage". Seen it done before and will probably happen again with someone else who wishes not to have a child. At least with abortions they are safe and done properly.
To say every child deserves a chance at life you cannot compare to something that isn't even a "human being" at the point it is removed from the body. There are PLENTY of kids who need homes and a big amount of those kids live their life in a foster home waiting to never be adopted, it would be cruel to put yet another child through that. There are the 9mths of dealing with a pregnancy, 9mths someone can't stand or deal with. If they want to get rid of the child while abortion is illegal they will find some sort of alternate to disrupt the term and have a "miscarriage". Seen it done before and will probably happen again with someone else who wishes not to have a child. At least with abortions they are safe and done properly.
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Jennifer Lee (Doerflinger) Hill
SGT (Join to see) The child is removed before it's human? At what point is that? Not arguing, but I've never seen a point where the baby didn't interact with me, in the womb.
Additionally, Democrats periodically push for partial-birth abortion!
I'm a trad Catholic, but I wasn't always. I can tell you from experience that abortion really screws up one's head. It sounds easy, but it isn't. I regret it & still think about my child. I'm now 64!
Additionally, Democrats periodically push for partial-birth abortion!
I'm a trad Catholic, but I wasn't always. I can tell you from experience that abortion really screws up one's head. It sounds easy, but it isn't. I regret it & still think about my child. I'm now 64!
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MAJ (Join to see)
WOW! What a sobering story. I am
pLeased to hear of your successful outcome.
As faulty as we are, I feel the majority attempt to do the ‘right’ thing.
WOW! What a sobering story. I am
pLeased to hear of your successful outcome.
As faulty as we are, I feel the majority attempt to do the ‘right’ thing.
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