Posted on May 21, 2016
Where did our freedom of speech go? Can you say what you want to nowadays?
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Simple answer is Nope.
Prime example is PT Cadences. 90% of my repertoire would get me booted from the Army in a heartbeat. Shame too as some of them songs are funny as hell.
Prime example is PT Cadences. 90% of my repertoire would get me booted from the Army in a heartbeat. Shame too as some of them songs are funny as hell.
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MAJ David Vermillion
Do you still sing the "Girl on a Hill" cadence? In the 60s and 70s many songs were foul in nature.
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MSG Pat Colby
"My girl's a Vegetable" is my favorite. Ad-libbing and harassing people that we run past was my favorite hobby. (MP's and fat people are easy targets) I was an Instructor for The Air Assault School for several years. We would get 4-6 Students to be cadence callers. I had two Pet-peeves. I hated re-runs of cadences and that damn song about "going to the Mess Sergeant on my knees". Never failed some poor fool would sing that song. I would stop the entire formation and smoke the hell out of everyone right there in the middle of the street. "You do not go to ANYONE on your damned knees!" I only heard that song ONCE per Class.
Heh heh heh ~ Good times!
Heh heh heh ~ Good times!
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Just because you can say anything you want doesn't mean you should. A kind word is as easy to speak as a cruel one. That being said, nobody has a divine right to not have their feelings hurt.
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There is no abolishment of the 1st Amendment but like all rights there are some limits. Your right to swing your arm ends at my nose. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater (Speech that with all due expectation will result in injury). Protesting on Private Property is one great example it is Trespassing. I respect those that do it to make a point but they are going to get arrested. If they do it where I am Security by Law the Police are the ones that will put the cuffs on you but I must tell you that you are under arrest for Trespassing (Citizens Arrest with the Assistance of Law Enforcement). Just the Nature of the Game. Freedom of Expression just keeps you from being arrested for saying what you want outside of Private Property. That doesn't mean though that you won't suffer the Social Ramifications of your words or the Cultural Ostracization. That doesn't mean you won't be sued if you Libel someone, That doesn't mean you won't be challenged about anything you say.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
SSG Nicholas Wright - Hard to Say, I know that I don't want a Military Junta taking over and making a Banana Republic out of the USA so I respect the Need for It.
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MSG Pat Colby
SSG Nicholas Wright - There's that "Respect" word again. You're freaking KILLING me dude. You don't get Respect simply because you have a vagina or are required to pray 5 times a day. I'm was/am an equal opportunity NCO. Look sharp, do your damn job and you will have no issues from me. I didn't and still don't give a flying fuck about "Feelings". Embracing the Suck is a major part of Military Duty. My secondary job was to teach people how to do their Army job and stay alive. As an NCO, my Primary job was to lead by example and Mentor others to perform my secondary job.
If my vulgar cadences shamed someone into taking their hands out of their pockets or get a haircut or lose some weight, I had a good damn day. In the mean time, I showed my Soldiers how peer pressure REALLY works. Shun, shame and humiliate those that disrespect the Uniform. Again FUCK Feelings. Making people feel good is NOT a primary concern.
If my vulgar cadences shamed someone into taking their hands out of their pockets or get a haircut or lose some weight, I had a good damn day. In the mean time, I showed my Soldiers how peer pressure REALLY works. Shun, shame and humiliate those that disrespect the Uniform. Again FUCK Feelings. Making people feel good is NOT a primary concern.
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SSG Nicholas Wright
Yes, you do get respect for those things. You get respect whatever you look like, however you pray, because that's what we owe to each other in the military, in the civilian world, and in life.
I'm not concerned with cadences about haircuts or pockets or losing weight, more like this stuff:
"Oh I love the little girls, some with straight hair, some with curls.
When they scream, when they whine, I kick them them in their fucking spine.
So grab your girlfriend by the hair, throw her down the fucking stairs.
Have her stick her finger up your butt , twist your prostate till you nut."
"I went to the market where all the hajis shop, I pull machete and I begin to chop.
I went to the school yard where all the kiddies play, I whip out my 60 and I begin to spray.
I wen to the mosque where all the Muslims pray, pulled out my Uzi and I begin to spray."
We're better than this. Making people feel good isn't the primary concern. People join the military to belong to something old and great, and to march and follow customs and courtesies. Cadences like the above two single out groups of servicemembers as different, as unlike the rest and not really belonging. Like the top post says, why not lift someone up instead of knocking them down?
I'm not concerned with cadences about haircuts or pockets or losing weight, more like this stuff:
"Oh I love the little girls, some with straight hair, some with curls.
When they scream, when they whine, I kick them them in their fucking spine.
So grab your girlfriend by the hair, throw her down the fucking stairs.
Have her stick her finger up your butt , twist your prostate till you nut."
"I went to the market where all the hajis shop, I pull machete and I begin to chop.
I went to the school yard where all the kiddies play, I whip out my 60 and I begin to spray.
I wen to the mosque where all the Muslims pray, pulled out my Uzi and I begin to spray."
We're better than this. Making people feel good isn't the primary concern. People join the military to belong to something old and great, and to march and follow customs and courtesies. Cadences like the above two single out groups of servicemembers as different, as unlike the rest and not really belonging. Like the top post says, why not lift someone up instead of knocking them down?
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