Posted on Mar 21, 2018
Where do you feel WWIII will erupt, if it does? Why will skirmishes boil over the rim into a war involving Allied Nations?
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It will only be WWIII for the US like the last one. Most likely start in Middle East where we will get drawn into one of the Arab civil/sectarian conflicts that escalate. Russia or China will take advantage at the correct moment and attach Formosa or Eastern Europe, respectively. At some point after that whichever one did not previously commit will then do so. We will then be committed to a three front war that we're not prepared for. North Korea is a loose cannon that both Russia and China are afraid of because DPRK will attempt to start something that neither are ready for and will contain N Korea. Russia is opportunistic, China is the planner and the Middle East are the fanatics.
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Somewhere in Europe, just like previous ones. Rest of the world doesn't rise to level of causing a world war.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
Agreed; China doesn't feel that by causing economic failure using OBOR to other nations that masses in those economically affected countries can revolt against China to the level of causing a world war or to the level of becoming a terror state.
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No where those that control the money are the world leaders! Without a world there worth is nothing!
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If a war starts it will probably begin in the middle east as that is a major powder keg waiting to explode as is China and Russia. I do not believe we will see a WWIII as no one would gain anything from it. There will be many conflicts though out the world and we will be called to assist one side or the other. What we as Americans have to understand is not everyone wants what we have or can manage what we have. Even we are having a hard time doing this at this time. We have to recognize the fact that some people do not care about what type of government they live under we learned this in Viet Nam as the farmers really didn't care they just wanted to grow crops, raise families and some had no concept of money. We can support countries that want to create a democratic republic like ours otherwise we should but out of their politics.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
Well said SPC Martin Meyer. There is no cause to commit troops to foreign countries to introduce a fresh concept that those nations are not ready to adopt or whose people are least likely to accept. Communism and Capitalism don't blend well together in the same pot; Radicalism and Terrorism don't blend well with any other form of government, unless the use of terror or radicals is strategy against enemies, like Pakistan versus India. U.S. and Russia are seen as the two extremes of a pendulum. Other states are liberal communists or liberal capitalists, or a socialist state that is willing to adjust and accommodate better policy for its people. Acceptance of our way of life cannot be forced upon other nations, because their tolerance to accept or adopt our ways might not exist.
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Ukraine and Russia will eventually get chaotic enough to pull America and Poland in. Our fight against the Islamic State will pick up in Africa, and once Iran and Israel really go at it WW3 is on.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
Will Asian nations play a role in WWIII, within the purview of your analysis Cpl Rob Kurczak ?
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We are already engaged in World War III, I think. War has changed. We probably won't see the kind of large-scale combat operations we saw in earlier world wars. We will instead be "fighting" to the "left of bang", in the so-called "Competition Phase". We'll be fighting in Space, Cyber and Information Warfare domains, as well as in special operations campaigns that may not even be called warfare.
There are a few scenarios that could result in large-scale combat operations, and they involve Russia, China, Iran and to a lesser probability now, North Korea. Russia and China may over-step the bounds of accepted international behavior. Russia under Vlad Putin may invade the Baltic Republics or move further into Ukraine to try to prove they are still a relevant great power. The Chinese Communist Party under Xi Jinping may further threaten their regional neighbors to push us out of Asia and continue their desperate efforts to feed and control a fracturing China. And Iran's aging religious leaders, more unattached daily to their youthful population, may attack Israel or the West to try to advance their Shia death-cult before Saudi Arabia's Sunni Renaissance makes them even more irrelevant and isolated from the rest of the Islamic world.
There are a few scenarios that could result in large-scale combat operations, and they involve Russia, China, Iran and to a lesser probability now, North Korea. Russia and China may over-step the bounds of accepted international behavior. Russia under Vlad Putin may invade the Baltic Republics or move further into Ukraine to try to prove they are still a relevant great power. The Chinese Communist Party under Xi Jinping may further threaten their regional neighbors to push us out of Asia and continue their desperate efforts to feed and control a fracturing China. And Iran's aging religious leaders, more unattached daily to their youthful population, may attack Israel or the West to try to advance their Shia death-cult before Saudi Arabia's Sunni Renaissance makes them even more irrelevant and isolated from the rest of the Islamic world.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
An economic war has broken out between China and the U.S. on account of taxation and an alternative to the World Bank, and to the IMF. China owns Hambantota Port in Sri Lanka due to an inability to repay high-interest Chinese loans. China will also own 1/6th of Colombo Port, even after its reconstruction by the Chinese to offset some of the loans from China. Pakistan has asked the IMF for billions of $$$ to restructure its economic debts, which are largely loans from China. Myanmar has also given China the green light to reconstruct its port on the Bay of Bengal and build a crude oil pipeline from the Bay of Bengal into China. The Maldives may honor Chinese contracts after all. Gwadar and Karachi are two ports in the Gulf that China will build, and operate for 43 years before it is transferred back under Pakistan's control. Doesn't the U.S. deem these developments a threat to regional peace and security?
We know that the USSR invaded Afghanistan with intent of reaching the Port City of Gwadar in Balochistan. Then, the Soviets would build a pipeline connecting the oil-rich North Seas and the Gulf making the USSR the most powerful oil-producing Union; it would control OPEC and other international organizations. The U.S. found the advance of the USSR towards the Gulf a threat in the 80s that the U.S. waged indirect war against those Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Thus; why is China's advance to control Asia and Africa today through its honeytrap of high-interest loans not seen as a threat to the relevance of the U.S. in these regions?
China wants to chip away at India in the Northeast and in Kashmir. Pakistan claims Kashmir and Punjab. However, India has managed to prevent territorial loss so far. The U.S. has also come knocking on India's door expecting India to only purchase stripped down versions of American military equipment. The caveat is that if India purchases Russian military might, the U.S. will impose sanctions against India. The U.S. has also given India an ultimatum to quit buying Iranian oil or face sanctions. China is buying into India's IT hub now.
The DPRK is only a puppet of China MAJ Hugh Blanchard and its relevance is insignificant. It was China's Xi Jingping who directed Kim to engage the U.S. and South Korea with intent on diverting the U.S. in China's question for expansion under its OBOR initiatives. Kim's meeting with Trump is at par with Xi's expectations.
We know that the USSR invaded Afghanistan with intent of reaching the Port City of Gwadar in Balochistan. Then, the Soviets would build a pipeline connecting the oil-rich North Seas and the Gulf making the USSR the most powerful oil-producing Union; it would control OPEC and other international organizations. The U.S. found the advance of the USSR towards the Gulf a threat in the 80s that the U.S. waged indirect war against those Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Thus; why is China's advance to control Asia and Africa today through its honeytrap of high-interest loans not seen as a threat to the relevance of the U.S. in these regions?
China wants to chip away at India in the Northeast and in Kashmir. Pakistan claims Kashmir and Punjab. However, India has managed to prevent territorial loss so far. The U.S. has also come knocking on India's door expecting India to only purchase stripped down versions of American military equipment. The caveat is that if India purchases Russian military might, the U.S. will impose sanctions against India. The U.S. has also given India an ultimatum to quit buying Iranian oil or face sanctions. China is buying into India's IT hub now.
The DPRK is only a puppet of China MAJ Hugh Blanchard and its relevance is insignificant. It was China's Xi Jingping who directed Kim to engage the U.S. and South Korea with intent on diverting the U.S. in China's question for expansion under its OBOR initiatives. Kim's meeting with Trump is at par with Xi's expectations.
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MAJ Hugh Blanchard
China never gives anyone anything for free, there are always big strings. Makes sense for the United States and India to become closer allies to address the Chinese threat in the Indian Ocean and China's growing influence via the One Belt and Road Initiative.
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I'm tuned to my own channel more or less, so I'll order off the menu and say -> Transcaucasus region (essentially, the Caspian Sea scenario but for reals). Iran and/or Russia as the primary aggressors, but the possibility for just about anybody in the region (including non-state actors) to actually instigate it (and quite possibly unintentionally). I think it would draw in the global military powers by way of security commitments and the need to maintain credibility and it would get to world war by way of assuming the other side is bluffing and finding out too late that they're not.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
I like your menu addition SGT (Join to see). You seem to go by the way of a James Bond movie and the King pipeline. Very interesting indeed.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana - Shaken, not stirred? (I think that had Michael Douglas's wife was in it.) It's a powder keg and the Russians and the Iranians could get to it from their own territory. Being former USSR land, the Russians probably have plenty of focus on it already. Azerbaijan has a shared ethnicity with many Iranians that might be relevant in a conflict one way or another. And, the Russians have already tested the West there once in their little foray against Georgia , plus with Erdogan being unreliable, it's hard to get to geographically from the West. Finally, what if China wanted a land-based alternative to the string-of-pearls route to Middle East petroleum? That bring their interests into the region as well through Central Asia.
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It will start in the same place all world wars seem to start.... the Balkans. the place we tend to forget about until we are unable to forget. Where hatred have been on the rise, and more will come as time drags items to light. How many NATO countries are there now - and what happens if Serbia decides to act -- again?
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America and nobody will come here except Israel to assist. Then when we get into it with the Alt Left Europe will get into it with Muslims. WWII on the way.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
CPT Edwina McCall, your Bushisms are way beyond my Obamaism and you Trump card your way with a slice of Clintonism. Good Luck Ms. Edwina and remember politics is not for bravehearts like me.
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CPT Edwina McCall
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana -You are NOT a Brave anything. If you backed Obama then that says it all. In this last war, I worked 6 months RR/ICU, 6 months helping to set up and working DWMMC, you might want to look that up, then I was responsible for the Daily Pentagon Report to General Granger Euro Command. During that time we saw about 40 wounded a day, then after a few months 30 a day. This was from downrange and included ALL , contractors, civilians , Iraqi wounded, our soldiers. Do the math for over a year, that is thousands of men, whose stories I heard, who we served and I will tell you right now, I am in step with every single one of the thousands I served and cared for. We knew who the enemy was, if you can't name the enemy then you are worthless. This was Obama's problem but not Trumps. This is why he was elected and you are the reason General Mathis is cleaning out the Military.
It is you and the new Military that is out of step. Now I am going to ask you nicely one last time. Do not post anymore to me. I can't stand you or what you are. And yes I can say that because I am Reserves and inactive and would give up my Commission before I had to serve with the likes of you.
It is you and the new Military that is out of step. Now I am going to ask you nicely one last time. Do not post anymore to me. I can't stand you or what you are. And yes I can say that because I am Reserves and inactive and would give up my Commission before I had to serve with the likes of you.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
CPT Edwina McCall; for your information, I don't pledge any political votes to any political party. I contribute to intelligence and intellect on RP. You, however, appear to be influenced in your skewed thoughts about me. Instead of throwing tantrums with you, I prefer to keep calm and be entertained by your lopsided imagination. Interesting Edwina!
COL Mikel J. Burroughs,Maj Marty Hogan,SSG(P) James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4",LTC Eric Udouj,Lt Col Charlie Brown
COL Mikel J. Burroughs,Maj Marty Hogan,SSG(P) James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4",LTC Eric Udouj,Lt Col Charlie Brown
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
Jerry Rivas; really, is Cleveland worse than Chicago? This is amazing, because in Chicago, upon exiting the airport, we used to witness gangs, even at gas stations. Is Cleveland worse than that ?
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