Posted on Jan 19, 2017
Why do most recent Medal of Honor recipients leave the military shortly after being awarded it?
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Mainly speaking about the latest MoH recipients from the Global War on Terrorism. I understand you receive a number of benefits for being a recipient of the award, such as; $1200 per month for life, 10% increase in military retirement pension, qualified dependents are automatically approved for attendance at military academies, commissary and PX privileges for life, the list goes on and on. Just wondering why the ones that had under 20 years wouldn't finish. Any thoughts on this?
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Edited 8 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
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Most who go into military service fall into one or more of several categories. Now understand this is based upon many candid conversations with troops of various branches that I came into contact with over the years.
1) They had nothing better at the time/did it for the College fund.
2) It was a family thing. IE my father served, my grandfather et., so it's my turn.
3) It was either this or jail.
4) Patriotism. IE After 9/11
5) A stepping stone to a better career and opportunities.
Some will serve their initial enlistment tour and get out. They realize that the military is not for them or they achieved their goal, whether that be saving some money or having the College Fund so they can now go on to college. Some will have started out on that route but realized that they either liked the military or were good at it and that they can go to college etc while they are serving.
620+ presentations of the MoH have been posthumous. The rest I suspect are a mix. It's not that people get out after they receive it. More likely it is that they are already out and have been out some time when they finally do receive it. It takes time for these things to flow through a chain of command and if it happens to be after a certain time it requires approval of Congress. Red Tape only knows one speed: slow.
As to why a MoH recipient would get out early rather than complete their 20? I can only speculate based upon my own experience. No, I was not, nor am I a MoH winner but I was with the Rangers when we took Panama thus eligible to wear my Units Crest as a combat patch upon PCS. I cannot count the number of times I got asked by soldiers that did not have combat experience the usual bevy of near pointless questions. You get tired of answering them almost day in and day out. I suspect that the questions get tedious to the MoH recipient who already feels as if they really did not earn the award. They, in their minds, just did their jobs, nothing more, nothing less.
Just my 2 cents.
1) They had nothing better at the time/did it for the College fund.
2) It was a family thing. IE my father served, my grandfather et., so it's my turn.
3) It was either this or jail.
4) Patriotism. IE After 9/11
5) A stepping stone to a better career and opportunities.
Some will serve their initial enlistment tour and get out. They realize that the military is not for them or they achieved their goal, whether that be saving some money or having the College Fund so they can now go on to college. Some will have started out on that route but realized that they either liked the military or were good at it and that they can go to college etc while they are serving.
620+ presentations of the MoH have been posthumous. The rest I suspect are a mix. It's not that people get out after they receive it. More likely it is that they are already out and have been out some time when they finally do receive it. It takes time for these things to flow through a chain of command and if it happens to be after a certain time it requires approval of Congress. Red Tape only knows one speed: slow.
As to why a MoH recipient would get out early rather than complete their 20? I can only speculate based upon my own experience. No, I was not, nor am I a MoH winner but I was with the Rangers when we took Panama thus eligible to wear my Units Crest as a combat patch upon PCS. I cannot count the number of times I got asked by soldiers that did not have combat experience the usual bevy of near pointless questions. You get tired of answering them almost day in and day out. I suspect that the questions get tedious to the MoH recipient who already feels as if they really did not earn the award. They, in their minds, just did their jobs, nothing more, nothing less.
Just my 2 cents.
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Don't know, however i had the pleasure of serving under two MOH recepiants. Both were incredibly humble , and an inspiration to all. Col Livingston retired as a LTGen. And Col Fox as a colonel after 43 years of active duty. GySgt Pruitt retired as a MSgt after twenty plus years. SgtMaj Kellogg had twenty plus years. So I think it is something very personal with each Marine, and the severity of their wounds.
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PO1 Dennis Herdina
Speaking only as an AF personnel specialist...while there is NO ORDER prohibiting a redeployment of an MoH winner.......it will VERY DEFINITELY be closely scruitinized at every single level of command starting at the highest levels. Imagine the uproar if an MoH winner got captured or worse killed in combat on being redeployed. Heads would roll at every command level. The propaganda alone would be incredible for the enemy. The holder of an MoH is a national treasure. When I was in reserves we had an MoH stationed at our command. EVERY single time his unit drilled sometime towards the end of the drill weekend some one from HqAF called to check on the individual..if he had any problems emotional, physical mental financial military it did not matter if he did there was an officer on his way the next day from Washington to deal with it as needed. And the reserve center CO and appropriate personnel would be on standby as well. I can only conclude that even after they are back as civilians or in the Reserves or Guard the military keeps a watchful eye on these people they are LITERALLY GOLDEN
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Cpl Thomas Woods
John Basilone was killed on Iwo Jima in Feb. 1945, after awarded MOH at Guadalcanal in 1942. With fighting men, that shit happens.....
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Not true at all. Many recipients of the medal have gone on and finished careers....
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I'm definitely aware that many in the past have stayed serving. There are many today that have gotten out, though.
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Can't say about today but during Vietnam only 1/3rd survived the experience that earned them the award and many of those were badly injured. I don't think amputees could continue to serve back then. Advances in prosthetics have changed that.
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When I was on the USS T.R. I had a chief in my division who was an MOH recipient from vietnam. He did not retire after getting it, he switched to the Navy and became a nuclear electrician.
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Around 2012 I heard MOH recipient Bruce Crandall speak at an ROTC event. He was kind to all in the room and was a great motivation for the cadets, and yet did not blow smoke. Having started my career in the post Vietnam Era, 1978, I aspired to be like Colonel Crandall and Major Ed "Too Tall" Freeman (also a MOH recipient). Those who live have a great opportunity to speak to and inspire the next generation of warriors.
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