Why doesn't the APFT have provisions for injuries incurred during the test?

I commend you on doing research but that's the wrong FM. It's FM 7-22 that is the new PRT Manuel. If you get legitimately injured and it's to such an extent it keeps you from passing then I don't think it should count. I also think it's a leadership decision. If you have good leadership that takes good care of its people then they usually do you a solid and understand the circumstances. Shit happens.

Imagine for a minute that this was possible. How many people do you think would "roll" their ankle as soon as they realize they won't make time on a run? How many would suddenly have "shoulder pain" on the push-ups and "lower back pain" on the setups? Then the overload on the medical system as they all go to sick call to try to prove their fake injuries.

The regs are written in such a way as to grant commanders a great deal of leeway in instances where regs don't provide exactly instructions.

I can sympathize with a true injury but the way that APFTs are conducted these days I don't see how it would occur. I will state something that may seem insensitive, I have taken PT test after 24 hour duty because of poor planning and also under the weather but I have always pride myself with being able to pass an APFT at any moment. My mantra, the more I sweat in training, the less I will bleed in battle. I tackle every APFT as if I am aiming for the extended scale that way even if I was under duress I would never drop to the 60 percent line.

They can count it as a diagnostic but that is up to your chain of command. Also if you were injured during and apft that made you fail they might take that into consideration but once again that is up to your chain of command

I'll echo SSG Derrick L. Lewis on that...great question.

Honestly, there should be a provision for that in the FM, but to my knowledge, there is not. I have seen good soldiers that regularly get 270- 300 on the APFT fail because they got hurt during. Next thing you know, they're out with the fatties doing special population PT in the afternoon.

If injured during APFT, then allow the soldier to go to a real sick, and then when healed, retest him or her.

I once scored a 259 (100PU/100SU). I normally out ran the platoon but failed my run. My LT came up and asked if I was feeling ok just as I started to vomit. He had the 1SG not but me on extra PT and just retake the test in a few weeks.

Based on the circumstances and proctor, its just the time completed, you should get an opportunity. on the next pt test offer.

No not in the least bit. Then you would have guys claiming an injury while on the run. You either run through it or you take the fail and retake it.

I agree with those saying that the regulations leave plenty of room for Commanders to have discretion. If malingering is a big issue, it is just as easy to have the Soldier undergo a medical exam immediately and if the Soldier is found to be in good enough condition, they should be administered another PT test within a reasonable amount of time. If they are found to have a serious but recoverable injury, then they should be given a profile and another chance after they have healed. This is definitely an art vs science of command question, but a good one.

I agree I was stationed in a CSH in Miesau, Germany and they would set up our run on a uneven unpaved surface. Did we have a track? Why yes we did, did we use it? No! So yes, loads of (minor) injuries during the AFPT just enough to eff up your time if you were borderline,.. Sucks! But true!

If you fail because of the injury go see medics get a profile let it heal the try again, too easy.

I don't know how it is handled anymore, but one of my units used to administer a PT test every month, but unless you scored above your normal the test was recorded on the APFT card but only the highest 2 were recorded as "Record Test" Perhaps it was because as a support unit we had soldiers constantly doing support missions which oftentimes did not allow one to keep up a constant PT regimen. I had a time I had to do a PT test the day after spending 2 weeks in the field, so needless to say that test score sucked wind. The humorous part was sitting with my squad leader and helping him write the mandatory counseling statement for failing the test, although we both that the next month would be better and it was. I'm not sure how to handle a unit that only tests twice a year, I would think there would be a need to have a make-up date for soldiers on leave, off-duty due to SDO, CQ, etc. and to catch the malingerers who are trying to skate out of the test.

Not performing to standard on an APFT is a failed APFT. There are things leadership can do should an injury occur, including marking the APFT as a diahgnodtic, removing you from the APFT area and sending you to the aide station for treatment, or holding onto your PT card until your injury can be verified. It is also appropriate to tell your first line or the NCOIC of there is a reason you shouldn't take the APFT, such as recent illness or injury that may effect your ability to perform. But ultimately if you start the APFT and bolo you may just have to eat it and retest later when you're recovered.

A lot of times the leadership will hive the benefit of the doubt. Even if it does count as a "failure" the command might not flag the soldier or give him any negative actions.

There is no provisions when it comes to combat so why have provisions for the pt test. Make it as real as possible. If a soldier rolled their ankle in combat they would get back up and run, but a. REMF would just not do the pt test because it would simulate too much like war.

im all for it. but there will those that abuse it. see, if you are failing the run already, you can magically roll that ankle. I can understand why the MFT wouldn't want to change. also, the FM is no longer. make sure you are looking at the most updated APFT book.

Why would there need to be a "provision"
1: did you pass YES / NO

IF NO
, it matters not why.. There is no action that is different following a kind of fail.. Kind of not pass
All
Follow up actions are based on pass of fail. So what purpose do you see is a fail with astrex Mark