Posted on May 28, 2015
Why don't all members of the Air Force have to be fully qualified to be a rifleman in case of hostile events?
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I have noticed through the years of being in the Air Force (Security Forces member here) that most people in the Air Force are clueless when it comes to M-4/M-16/M-9. This is outrageous! What are they supposed to do if the enemy comes knocking on our door step and everyone needs to fight. I have taught classes on the M-4 with communication airmen and have seen them completely mess up clearing out the weapon, loading it (magazine upside down or rounds the wrong way), and just completely incapable of achieving a zero on target after four rounds of firing. I am a big fan of how the Army and Marines teach that your are always a rifleman first. It almost seems like some of the Airmen don't expect to carry a weapon (ummmm why did you join the military in the first place)? I wish the Air Force would pick up on this to make us a more combat ready force. But, enough of me what are your thoughts?
Rifleman
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Air Force
Edited 9 y ago
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What are my thoughts ?
I joined the Air Force in 1963 mainly because they are a non-combatant military service, Combat is for the Army and Marines, However in times of War that scenario changes especially if you are headed to a Country at war , most certainly should be given an extended course in weapons , that being said I agree with the above writer, I thought weapons training was a part of Basic training ? in those day's I thought the training was pretty good , I trained on several weapons including the old M-1 and just before shipping to Vietnam we were given an extended course in weapons, If the Air Force has slacked off with weapons training they need to rethink and re engage in this course especially with the times we are in , I feel the Air Force should be called last but be ready should they be called.
I joined the Air Force in 1963 mainly because they are a non-combatant military service, Combat is for the Army and Marines, However in times of War that scenario changes especially if you are headed to a Country at war , most certainly should be given an extended course in weapons , that being said I agree with the above writer, I thought weapons training was a part of Basic training ? in those day's I thought the training was pretty good , I trained on several weapons including the old M-1 and just before shipping to Vietnam we were given an extended course in weapons, If the Air Force has slacked off with weapons training they need to rethink and re engage in this course especially with the times we are in , I feel the Air Force should be called last but be ready should they be called.
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Sgt Pete Kondrosky
Sanders...the USAF a non-combatant military service..REALLY. Not from where I (emphasized) was.
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A1C Riley Sanders
I think I stated Unless you are headed for a war zone, I also saw action.
Base was hit two times when I was there, I picked up my M-16 and headed out the hooch door /.
Base was hit two times when I was there, I picked up my M-16 and headed out the hooch door /.
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I was Air Force during Vietnam. I had to qualify with an M-16, PT, Combat Training. Why in the world would not every branch of the service have to do this?
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I achieved expert marksman status in the Air Force during basic training in 1950. I was not aware this training was stopped.
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I think you are full of shit, you haven't been around very long or read your History. My career field AFSC 605/2T2 was trained in all weapons, tactics: from shotgun driver, SOS, CCT or whatever unit, you happened to be assigned to. Yes, I came in 1983-2004, ever hear of Airfield Defense School? We were the guys that put you on the plane, either at the DACG or Pax Terminal, and when we were fired upon, and no one was around, we guarded the airfield when no AS/AP/SP/SF were available, we did our own. The big Boy Scouts (Army) taught us how to fire those nice big toys, Rock On 1/506!
Anyway, shut your mouth until you get some experience. Another thing, where is the common sense? Do not fucking get me started.
Anyway, shut your mouth until you get some experience. Another thing, where is the common sense? Do not fucking get me started.
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If you wanted to be in the military, you shouldn't have joined the Air Force...
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Combat Comm, Red Horse, Forward Air Control, Special Operations Airmen all train with their weapons and are tasked with their own defense and combat operations because they operate outside the big protected Air Bases. Because everyone only sees airplanes they forget the handful of Air Force personnel on the ground in the combat zones.
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When I was in the Air Force, we did have augmentees who filled in in emergency situations. They were not well trained and where just an extra body to fill emergency positions. Everyone should at least be trained in basic weapons use.
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