Posted on Apr 2, 2020
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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China, after the virus leak, completely locked down Wuhan and quarantined the city. Beijing and Shanghai reported no cases of Covid-19. India also placed the Nation under a three-week curfew to prevent the spread of Covid-19 and the number of cases in India are way less than any European country or the United States. Couldn't the U.S. follow these examples to save lives?
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SPC Steven Depuy
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I find myself frustrated at people not being careful, and being angry at the whole system. I fix AC for a living, I have had to work every day during this mess, exposing myself to danger. I am 61, fat, and have diabetes, if I get COVID, I have a good chance of dying. The whole time, when only "essential" businesses were open, you saw the joke of what went on. If I needed to pick up a part at Lowes, the store was filled with people buying plants, mulch, and many other things that were not exactly essential, but since they sold parts people need to fix things, they could stay open. I would wear a mask going in there in March and April, and people would look at me and shake their heads like I was doing something wrong. Every week, I am in other peoples homes. Initially, I just didn't want to kill someone, because masks don't protect you, they make it harder for you to spread it. Then you deal with the frustration of the press and so much BS. As of July 13th, ICU beds in Florida have 17% taken with COVID cases, but the press says they are overwhelmed, and people are laying in hallways. As of that date, 1/3 of the COVID deaths were in NY, NJ, and one other state from the whole country, but they are held up as models now. I personally think a lot more people had it, which is why its not spreading as much now. I had a family member get it, who stayed home, and is fine with minimum medical care. My sons girl friend got it, and I am pretty sure he had it as well as he got a bit sick a week later, but they were both fine. I had my second friend my age die of it this week. But you have people running around saying wearing a mask is a violation of their rights, we need herd immunity and those who die just die. My one friend had underlying medical conditions, the other one did not, and was very fit. I see so much politics in this whole deal, where its the Red governors vs the Blue ones, and the press seems to want to make the red states look bad. Massive fraud in Florida was uncovered by a local TV station in their reporting, when a large number of labs had 100% positive results, where the over all overage I think they said was around 20%. I wear a mask around other people, I don't wear one to drive, mow my grass, or in my office all day alone. I keep chairs for someone who would come in my office about 8' from my desk, and don't look directly at people when I talk to them. I get a flu shot every year, I don't get sick. When they have a COVID vaccine, I will get it as well. But being a country of rebels, we scream no vaccine, no masks, we have parties paying cash to the first person who gets infected. We are a nation of idiots any more, all I can say. Sorry about the ramble, still dealing with my friends death yesterday, and just want to scream at the world right now.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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SPC Steven Depuy, the Covid-19 designated bed issue is common the world over I feel. In Gurgaon, in the National Capital Region (NCR), in India, was expecting a very high volume of Covid-19 cases and it made provisions in private medical treatment facilities and hotels in town, but only 1,000 affected occupants in private rooms came for a 14-day R&R and the remaining discounted beds lay vacant. This forced Hospital staff to try and fleece from insured patients. The discount room rate set by Government is 5,000 and hospitals and hotels are charging 25,000. Complaints to Government only received this response, "Government will reimburse Covid-19 designated facilities the Government room rate and the patients are responsible for the balance." One patient received a hospital bill for 14 days of 500,000, which equates to 35,000/day. The breakup is 25,000/day for room and 10,000/day for treatment. This amount is not inclusive of 18% taxes for State and Centre. Everyone is looking to bridge the gap between earnings and losses during the three months of Lockdown and the hospitals won't get left out of making those extra bucks.
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MSG Felipe De Leon Brown
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There will always be dishonest grifters.
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CPO John Moore
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I think things could have been different if the governors and the federal government had got together and came up with a plan that would have helped stop the spread of COVID-19. our president didn't help matters very much by his actions (it was more or less you do as I say not the way I do or act) he should have set the example for the people of this country by wearing a mask and gloves). we say in the military a good leader looks out after his troops and take care of them, from what I have seen coming out of Washington the leadership has dropped the ball and lost it somewhere along the line. In my opinion, they should find it and start leading in of acting like a flock of quails which fly off in all directions
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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The misleading information shared with the public that the virus was no more than a Chinese Flu or Wuhan Plague sounded like this virus was just a joke; Government and the People didn't take it seriously at all.

The Hydrocloroquine and Chloroquine were tossed into the equation by Trump as a regimen that cures the novel Coronavirus and this drug was ordered from India in hugh quantities by the U.S. In Africa, hydrocloroquine and Chloroquine were used to treat water-borne diseases, to include fever, influence and diarrhea. By chance, the symptoms of Covid-19 are partially same; however, Covid-19 patients enjoy a loss of smell and taste, which are key symptoms of Covid-19. This is where the U.S. lost its way, I believe.
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MSG Felipe De Leon Brown
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Another principal of leadership is leading by example. Even as a leader, one has to set the example of the best way to face a situation even if one, as a leader, might find it inconvenient for themself. Most of my former troops and former students met my demands because I never once demanded that they do something that I refused to do. Physically fit? My last AFPT was less than a month before I retired. I ran 2 miles in 12.5 minutes. I was 44 years of age.
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Cpl Roman Makuch
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Hydroxichloroquine, with ZPak and zinc actually do work when administered early (on a ventilator they are on par with prayer), but for political reasons it was attacked. It was also attacked by big Parma since it's over 65 years old and patents have long expired. A bottle of 1,000 costs $37. Compare that to the new wonder drug that would cost over $3.5k.
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SrA Brett Stratton
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Put simply? Excuses and ego.
Americans, in general, think they know better than the experts and prefer to stand and fight instead of submitting. Furthermore a lot would rather take the risk so they don't have to sacrifice their conveniences of life or social lives. The WORST excuse is thinking their rights are bing infringed when it's nothing of the sort (just pot stirring done by conspiracy theorists to justify their irrational hate and/or stubborn behavior).
The stats speak for themselves. We have defied on every aspect and are #1 in COVID-19 cases as compared to the rest of the world. Despite what some people think, a lockdown is necessary until this is done and over with. If people want to go out and get affected, let them. It says more about them than it does anything else.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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Totally agree with your assessment SrA Brett Stratton; the Lockdown is necessary to protect against the spread of Covid-19 and to prevent gatherings which can turn into a super spreader of the novel Coronavirus. Put ego, hatred and other excuses aside, until Covid-19 is no more.
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Cpl Roman Makuch
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SARS 1 is still around and so will Covid. It's already mutated to a less deadly strain in Italy. SARS 1 is now totally harmless.
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SrA Brett Stratton
SrA Brett Stratton
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You're not wrong. Not just SARS 1, but a bunch of other diseases have mutated to being harmless and forgotten. No doubt COVID-19 will too. But that's not the case now. Until that day comes, we need to do what we can to minimize the risks and dangers because it's still an issue currently.
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SPC Timothy Rock
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Because the Commander-in-Chief is incompetent, just as most military generals say he is. The USA should have organized a national lockdown in February 2020 and helped each state to get to a place of health and re-opening by the summer. Instead, a pandemic that had to be treated using science was turned into a political football and the mass death that has followed will only get worse until someone with a science background is allowed to take charge. The systems of government don't mean a thing. Unity and a coordinated national plan are the answer, as every successful nation has shown which include Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, South Korea and even the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Those leaders mixing COVID with politics only create chaos and death. The USA is in a sad position right now. Why has it taken so long for the U.S. to realize that a national Lockdown is necessary to prevent the spread of Covid-19? Incompetent leadership is the answer. Put the military in charge or take some kind of decisive action or it will be well beyond 200,000 dead by year's end. That is FACT.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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MAJ Ken Landgren - I got a down vote. I am hurt. lol
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Brad Miller
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For lack of reasoning in your arguments.
The content is another subject altogether.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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Brad Miller - You have no clue how ignorant you are. My pinky knows more about Disaster Planning than you. Now since you are such a knowledgeable badass, please expound on your knowledge in regards to the topic.
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Brad Miller
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The donkey brays loudly, and is heard afar, but says nothing worth hearing about.
Ad hominem attacks are a major sign of having no solid position to stand on.
Also, by claiming to know more about your opponent than you possibly could, you put the value of your OWN arguments at risk.
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GySgt Theodore Shadley
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Don't worry sooner or later survival instincts will kick in and everyone will realize the virus is driving the bus and we are all just passengers. It has taken my brother so listen too the scientist and hope for the best. A vaccine will take about a year and that’s using people as Guinea pigs. 2020 is a wake up call. Life, first the test and then the lesson.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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This virus has taught us that we are unprepared for a biological warfare because Covid-19 is a biological nightmare that has no constructive solution, except for social distancing, quarantine and wearing three layered masks. It is sad and disheartening.

As for the loss of your brother, I am certain he was a warrior like you Gunny; R.I.P. China need not have tested the novel Coronavirus in this manner. My Condolences Brother.

GySgt Theodore Shadley
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PFC Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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Because making store owners in North Dakota and Wyoming close shop would cost people their livelihoods while serving no purpose to public health other than appeasing the Blue Checkmark Brigade.
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PO1 Kevin Dougherty
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It's the difference between a Democratic Republic and a totalitarian Communist system where the state controls all areas of society.
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SGT Michael Hearn
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Hello, I agree the Covid-19 virus is deadly killer that has the same effect on your lungs as mustard gas. Would you remove your mask during a chemical attack? Lack of timely information from the Chinese government Because we have never seen anything like this before People were skeptical until the morgues started filling up in highly populated cities. Now Jacksonville Florida the whole state is on lockdown People is dying everywhere. If you want to survive this crisis Follow all the guidelines that have been plastered all over the TV. A LITTLE DISCOMFORT VS. DEAD FOREVER!
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PFC Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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A decade long depression for 325 million people is a little more than a little discomfort. And most of the fatalities will be coming from people who don't have much time left either way. Sure, some young people will die too, but young people die from other things every day regardless. The net effect is still that we are sacrificing the long term prosperity of the working class to preserve the vegetation of the sick and old for a few more years.
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SPC Timothy Rock
SPC Timothy Rock
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Remember what you wrote when you hit 60.
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Brad Miller
Brad Miller
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I've had it. It is NOT like mustard gas. Do a little research on WMD before you start making nonsensical and hysterical statements.
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SGT Michael Hearn
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PFC (Join to see) - Let me remind you son if you live long enough you will be old too. Then let's see what you say then
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CWO3 Retired
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There’s a huge difference between our Country and the others. Especially in Asia. We all can say what we all think should happen and the why, when, where, and whom, but bottom line of blaming who caused this should be the very last reason not the first. From military point of view in my professional opinion it seems to me personally that there are too many HMFIC that don’t have the foggiest idea what they’re saying and doing about it. Our first line responder, ie our healthcare folks, our nurses, doctors, scientists, pharmacists and anyone else who could provide services to the ones in desperate need should be our first priority. It is asinine to hear how our political leaders are going to do this or that. When in reality nothing of the sort is actually being down in D.C. Now our Military Personnel are being affected by this virus. Call it like it is a deadly virus period. I’m sick and tired of hearing what our leaders have been doing, but yet people are Dying. Other than our military folks here on RallyPoint, I can’t fathom what the hell is our Countries Leaders are waiting for? Is our first priority is the welfare of our society and it’s human beings, or it is our cash cow: the banks, airlines, Wall-street and many others who are trying to market on the deaths of good descent human beings. Who do we actually blame for this pandemic here in our Country? We can all blame ourselves for letting someone who doesn’t get it and have no moral fiber or soul anymore. With that I’d like to leave with this saying, what’s worse a planet dying or a dying planet without humans.
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Cpl Roman Makuch
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Deadly? Less than 16% have died from Covid. Over 150k died with Covid. A lot more people die on the highways every year, but that isn't used as a political sledgehammer. If you are under 65 and in reasonable health, your odds of dieing in a car wreck are higher. But the press doesn't bother reporting that. That's according to the CDC numbers as of 2 weeks ago.
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GySgt Kenneth Pepper
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In my small corner of the world there are are a number of people who are holding on the idea that they have already had it and beat it. No proof of that of course.
This is an area on the I-20 corridor, ~4 hours from New Orleans, Dallas, Jackson MS and Little Rock. A ticking time bomb.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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It's all fun and games until you need a ventilator and there is none to spare. That is a death sentence.
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