Posted on Mar 25, 2016
Why is it that Civilian Soldiers/Military believe their rank in service is relevant to what position they hold in civilian jobs?
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It isn't. I went from being a 1Lt. to changing my background on employment applications to being less than I was just to get a job, any job. Check the market before you leave the Service. I didn't and paid for it.
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LTC John Mohor
Just remember 1LT Chris Newport we have to start somewhere on the civilian side. Keep striving and looking. I went from Artillery LT to Production / Sanitation supervisor and finally got into building material sales now for almost 20 years. I was able to find my nich. Hard work and not getting wrapped around who gets the credit pay off in the long run. I kept applying for better opportunities and finally lucked out with some help. I hope you've looked into the reserves or guard. I managed to qualify for the retirement at 60 and it sure will be a nice supplemental income along with my company retyirement! Good luck on all your future endeavors and again thanks for your service!
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Maybe my spin on this is different than the intent behind the question. I don't think it is so much the rank itself, it is the duties and responsibilities associated with the positions held concurrent with that rank, that should be relevant to positions in the civilian sector. It can be a challenge for newly separated/retired active military to get hired to a civilian position that is commensurate to the level they had with their rank/position in the military. I am speaking more of the private sector, not GS jobs. You have earned your experience and the rank/position that goes with it, it is only fitting to hold higher expectations for yourself after the military and not settle for entry level jobs if you are capable and qualified for much more than that. My take is based on Active duty transitioning to corporate America.
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Don't really see it out here on this base. There are very few Active Duty here, there are a lot of Retired and Veterans working as contractors, but rank is rarely brought up. Come to think of it, I think I know only a few peoples retired rank.
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Because sometimes it does. MPs make good police in the civilian world. Communicators make excellent computer techs if properly retained in that area. Military should not go to waste. Best bet hire a vet is still a good idea. Besides the Honorable discharge says that hire can do whatever the job entails as long as there is training on going.
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Just for some background, SPC Basset, companies use the former rank and experience of personnel as a "force multiplier" for securing contracts, as such the rank you separated from the service (in general) determines the kinds of jobs you will qualify for afterward. That said I know from personal experience that we have a number of retired field grades and senior NCOs who never tire of reminding you about their former rank and even keep it on their signature blocks. It's one of life's irritations that you learn to put up with. My vote is to forget about what you "used to be" and concentrate on what you are supposed to be doing.
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While that correlation is not consistent, the normsl answer in my opinion would be experience. Most NCO's are used to being in charge and are comfortable giving direction, also they will often be a few years older and in many cases have worked longer. Among junior soldiers, on average they are younger with less experience, and are less used to being in charge. While these points are often true, there are enough exceptions to this that it is by no means the norm. On the civilian side, I believe older more experienced workers often act like NCOs because that is a natural byproduct of experience in most cases.
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It is no good No one ever asked what my rank was the 40 years i work Well a vet would
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Great question, the answer is simple when transitioning to some jobs mostly government jobs. You military rank is very important to what pay grade you will start at. It is the same way that using your military ATTARS transcript will advance you most universities allowing you to receive credit for university courses. Many police and fire departments give credit and extra points for military service.
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perhaps whilst enlisted, like I was, I was a specialist in the army, but at THE SAME TIME, a civilian RN, well while working on the weekend, at a local hospital, I was the charge nurse, and my 2 lpn's? My platoon sgt and squad leader...E7 and E6 (p)...they loved 'breaking me in during the day, but AFTER I was the charge nurse and they weren't over ME? Well it seemed the 'smoking' stopped after that...and NO, I did NOT mete out any 'revenge' while they were MY subordinates....I treated THEM like I wanted to be treated...must have stuck...
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It's about demonstrating experience and maturity. When a civilian employer looks at your military experience, they are evaluating you on many more levels than one. If the person making your employment decision is former military, your rank and the amount of time you served may be an indicator of what kind of person your are. Slow rank may equal someone that is not eager to learn, work hard, or overcome obstacles. A person who makes rank quickly may be just the opposite. Ultimately it is up to you and what you bring to the work force. Education may not be as important in some jobs as experience. Your past experience in the military may not relate well to your civilian job so that may be lost during the evaluation. Knowing what to do and doing it so that you rise to the top of your field always gets noticed.
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