Posted on Sep 2, 2015
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It's already being said that no gun shop in America will sell the smart guns.

The argument for the use/sale of these weapons is that only the owner will be able to fire the weapon because of the use of finger print recognition technology, hand biometrics, coded locks or other features to ensure a gun can be fired only by its owner, preventing stolen weapons from being used in crimes.

The argument against the use/sale of these weapons is the supporters of the 2nd Amendment say smart guns will make it easier for the government to control the sale and use of lawful firearms.
They fear, the advent of guns with high-tech safety mechanisms will prompt state governments to mandate their use. New Jersey already has such a law on the books.

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-smart-gun-20150615-story.html
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SSG Keven Lahde
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CPT (Join to see) Ma' am Smart Guns??? Do they come with an app too? I mean what is this world coming too? Guns don't kill people, idiots and stupid people kill. I think I will sue McDonald's for making me fat, or sue Camel for giving me lung cancer, even though I don't smoke.....lol. Just too funny if you ask me.
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Cpl James Waycasie
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Also if they operate on a frequency, I'm sure the government would develop ( Probably already have) a way to block all the frequencies used by smart guns ; which in turn would render every gun owner defenseless unless they have alternative weapons. I love recurve & compound bows and arrows. Much more accurate at further distances than a normal person with a pistol anyway.
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SSgt Terry P.
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CPT (Join to see) - That is funny.
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Cpl James Waycasie Regarding the frequency use, it might become like radio controlled aircraft flying. The FCC controls the frequencies they can be operated on and only individuals properly licensed are allowed to operate on those frequencies. (A card is issued stating the frequency)
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MCPO Roger Collins
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It could cut down on accidental deaths, but never end gun violence. Way too many children killed through the accidental firing of a firearm. And it is really expensive at this time.
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They MIGHT help, but prevent it by ending it? No. Humans are involved. IT'S NOT THE GUN'S FAULT!!!
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CPT Russell Pitre
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Nope, only smart people. You can't change tool enough to stop it's use. Even if you can't fire a gun you can still use it to rob a store.
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LTC John Shaw
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Guns will eventually be replaced by non-lethal devices as states, cities and individuals try anything to avoid liability when protecting ourselves.
The military will also have smart guns and non-lethal as future administrations focus on the the destruction of an adversary but restraint and redirection.
This is how Dems and the liberal courts will get around the 2nd amendment is by using technology that did not exist at the time.
Civil liability will be used as a wedge against lawful gun owners and police. States and cities pay out millions of dollars in compensation for secondary impacts or accidental deaths when civilians are caught in crossfire.
I am confident that over time liberal courts will keep assigning civil liability to gun owners and it will become too risky or expensive to own a 'conventional' weapon = not a smart gun or a non-lethal method.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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LTC John G Shaw, Well put Col. Heavenly days, will this ever end?
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SPC David Willis
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If people want to buy smart guns more power to them. I always think its funny when supposedly hardcore 2A supporters want to ban a certain type of gun... I personally wont buy one, but if you have small kids who aren't familiar with guns it would be a great option for a readily accessible home defense firearm.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
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Smart guns don't equal smart people. The Orlando shooter legally purchased the gun/guns he used. He was legally sane when he purchased the guns. He was background checked so good, that he had a job for a high level security firm. Yet - in a fit of craziness, he killed many people. So what went wrong? Would a biometric gun have prevented the killing? No. The fingerprints would match, would they not? After all, its HIS gun. And his fingers on the trigger. So back to the drawing board!

What a biometric gun CANNOT promise is the ability to read your mind. It doesn't know if you're angry, hateful, unlawful, etc. All the biometrics in the world would not have stopped the shooting. No weapon can. Again - the guns are not ever the problem, nor their availability. Even if the waiting period was seven years thats no guarantee that on the 2556th day I won't snap and want to kill someone with my gun.

There are 425 million guns in the USA. Legal guns. Not law enforcement. Not military. Privately owned guns. The time to regulate or reign them in has passed. They are not going away any time soon. Its time to stop pretending theres an easy one-step fix. Put armed security everywhere. In schools, in libraries, in theaters, in cafe's, basically...everywhere. Make sure that armed, trained security are on hand. Had an armed security guard been in Stoneybrook, the result would have been different. Want proof? An armed school administrator in Pearl, MS, drew and shot a "Columbine wannabe."

"But that would give us an armed - fear based society." So? At least you'd be alive to complain, right?
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
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The entire "gun violence" argument is nothing more than a knee jerk attempt to settle a problem much deeper. Gun violence is simply people commiting violence using a tool that is effective. If you take away the tool the desire to commit violence is still there. People commit violence because of mental illness or because they have the attitude that they are entitled to take whatever they want by whatever means neccessary. This is because they lack common decency due to the effects of poor education, lack of morals and lack of positive family structure.
But, to address the question, bio-safe firearms are not foolproof, and mean nothing when they are millions of regular firearms avaliable.
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SGT William Howell
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I like my guns like I like my women. Ready to go off in a seconds notice and I don't have to do anything to make that happen.
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MSgt J D McKee
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Somebody tried selling those already and got shut down. You know, there was a gas station put up one of those "don't bring your gun in here" signs in my small Alabama town. I know people who had been shopping at that store for 40 years who won't go in there now, even though he took the sign down in about a couple of months. I just ignore the stupid shit.
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MSgt J D McKee I know. People see the safety features as a hinderance to taking immediate action. I'm sure the store owner heard plenty about if from friends and family. Maybe things will get better.
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PO3 Electrician's Mate
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no, it will only prevent my wife or my son to use my gun in a situation warranted to use to defend themselves. The whole idea of smart gun for the politician is to register gun to a single person, other can't use it. if it is an option that I add it and can program it myself, that would be same as a firearm access box right beside my bed, that will be fine. but what they are talking about is not like that.
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