Posted on Jan 12, 2017
Cpl D L Parker
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Wouldn't they storm our borders the way the Russians rushed the Germans, with waves of troops.
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CPT Jack Durish
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Does anyone really think they can swim that far? They sure as hell don't have the sea power to project strength across the Pacific. They barely have enough to overwhelm Taiwan.
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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If they promise to stop and just take CA, do we even bother to try and stop them.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Just southern CA
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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I like wine country as much as anyone else but San Fran is a big part of the problem.
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PO3 John Wagner
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PO3 John Wagner
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - Too bad the electoral college was sabotaged in the late 1800's. By you guessed it. Democrats. If the vote went by legislative districts when would the last Democrat President have been? (Honestly...I don't know..anyone?)
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MSgt George Cater
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Since the question presupposes invasion of the west coast, just let the liberal gun lobby led by Jerry Brown, the ladies of The View, Meryl Streep, et al. explain the gun laws to them and collect up the Chi-com AK's on the beach..
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MSgt George Cater
MSgt George Cater
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Sir! You'd deny me the opportunity to put to use that degree in sarcasm I earned in DI School? What fun does an old man have left?
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With so many Chinese military personnel, if they invaded our west coast, could we stop them?
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Fun question. But it will never happen. They have no ability to get enough troops here to even try. Navy and AF would put paid to that before they ever even set foot here. I'd be more worried about eventual kinetic bombardment from orbit, an ability you can be sure every military power is racing to get to.

That said, if they joined forces with Russia and invaded through Alaska...that would be problematic.
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PO3 John Wagner
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I know what kinetic bombardment is but how much damage could you do with even a several ton kinetic energy weapon.. no doubt a great deal by comparison to many weapons... and without the radiative mess? Have you looked at any figures? I am quite interested. I have heard of the potential of pushing asteroids toward a target on earth but that is a rather long range possibility yet.
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PO3 John Wagner
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Cynthia Croft - Well, the Aussies do have a propensity to drink and scrap. Probably best to go a bit easy on the armory.. Rifles on the other hand are a bit difficult to conceal in the waistband of your pants. I am sorry that the rifles are so under control as well.
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SN Greg Wright
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PO3 John Wagner - A 10-pound slug of depleted uranium (because it's very, very hard, and no, not radioactive) would probably yield an explosion the size of a MOAB at orbital speeds. Anything larger, and you get into nuclear-level explosions, without the radiation.
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PO3 John Wagner
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SN Greg Wright - I suppose it could definitively raise Hell if it hit the right thing....or the wrong thing. And at 10lbs you could pack an awful lot of them into a relatively small package.
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While I do not claim to be an expert on the Chinese Army, and I took the following description from the internet, I believe it to be fairly accurate in terms of numbers. China’s Army—officially the People’s Liberation Army Ground Forces (PLAGF)— is the largest army in Asia. Numbering 1.6 million active duty troops, the PLAGF is charged with securing China’s borders, providing a capability to project land power in China’s neighborhood and increasingly, on a global scale.

I think the Pacific Ocean provides us with enough of a buffer to deter a determined assault on our western shores. Sustaining an invasion force from over 6,000 miles away presents its own challenges coupled with US Naval and Aviation superiority for the west coast that i believe would prevent invasion plans anytime soon.

I think a bigger challenge would be facing the Chinese military in the Pacific where they seem to be flexing some muscle and expanding their naval and aviation capabilities.
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SN Greg Wright
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Cynthia Croft - No worries, Cynthia. (I have to go back and spell your name properly every time, because I've spent my life calling my aunt 'Cynth' heh). As close as our countries are, we'd be there. Besides, China should look to Australia's effectiveness in WW2, before deciding something so foolhardy.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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SN Greg Wright - i believe many can also attest to how good the Australian Troops were in Viet Nam, they were very good at what they did.
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SN Greg Wright
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - Huh. I didn't know they participated there. Cool. Thanks for the education.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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at 6,000 rounds per minute, a Mini gun every 20 yards running freegun in remote turrets might work
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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This sums it up
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While I hold no love for California I do respect the ability of the Navy and Marines to hold the line along with the Air Force, Army, and National Guard units also in California. Not to mention their amphibious invasion would have had to bypass Hawaii and our Fleet in the Pacific.

Combine this with nearby National Guard and Reserve units being activated to assist in repelling the invasion the Air Force and Air Forces of the Marine Corps and Navy would not make it easy to advance. While the Forces on the West Coast and the immediate back up of the Reserve Component are holding them in place the Active Component would mobilize and prepare for a counter attack on China as well as aiding in forcing them off our shores.

Holding the line is something I believe we could do, evacuating the Civilians would be difficult.

That being said their Naval Air Forces might slip past our defenses and target Civilians, that in addition to potentially deploying ground forces by air and using missiles to hit Military and Civilian targets.

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They could invade South America or Mexico and do their land invasion via the Southern Border but we would detect a movement that large and intercept it. Unless China secured an Alliance with Mexico the Mexican Military though weaker would assist us in repelling the Chinese. Not to mention the Canadian Navy and Air Force as well.

Top that off with China attacking a NATO member or two and well there we have World War III.
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PO3 John Wagner
PO3 John Wagner
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I liked Goldie Hawn better...you'll have to do for now boss.
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PO3 John Wagner
PO3 John Wagner
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Armed invasion is no longer possible
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PO3 John Wagner
PO3 John Wagner
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PO3 John Wagner - civilian casualties on land are one thing but transporting troops by ship against United States or its interests is throwing away blood and treasure
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PO3 John Wagner
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PO3 John Wagner - Thanks for the upvote. A further comparison might be pointed out. Such an action by a foreign power..which certainly would gain no legal traction or even solid negative public reaction. Would result in enemy losses which made the D-day invasion look like the Grenada invasion comparatively
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SGT Patrick Reno
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Your not looking at just the Military stopping them, but every household with a weapon. We are the most armed country in the world. They would have people sniping at them 24-7 from everywhere.
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PO3 John Wagner
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PO3 Bob McCord - lol
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PO3 John Wagner
PO3 John Wagner
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As a rule that would work until they started taking retribution on soft targets.
Still getting large contingents of men deep into our territory would be exceptionally difficult. Marching armies or even transporting armies over long distances in what as you mentioned is a heavily armed country with people who are armed to the teeth and would welcome the opportunity to shoot live targets is going to be problematic. Not only are we heavily armed we are armed with lots of high powered hunting rifles as well as AK's and AR's with large magazines. I can buy thousands of rifle rounds and dozens of clips for very little money.
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PO3 John Wagner
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There does seem to be little sympathy for California... the home of illegals, the left, and the mouthy movie stars...I wonder why?
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Those that were able to swim the 200 or so miles from where their ships were sunk would be too tired to mount much of a fight. Perhaps if west coast food banks could meet them on the beach with some General Tso's Chicken we could win them over and get some cheap labor to build the wall.
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Cpl D L Parker
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General Tso chicken is different in China. They'd gag looking at it.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Cpl D L Parker - Well that achieves the objective as well.
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A1C Charles D Wilson
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With our eye in the sky early warnings we would be well prepped. Build a line defense along the mountains on the Nevada and Az border the clean house from there. Cali wants to be free so be it with the no gun zones and it would be a free for all until they hit that line we set up. I bet Cali would wake up then about not wanting to be on the band wagon. Seems right to me. Oregon and Washington may be ok not sure yet lol j/k j/k
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PO3 John Wagner
PO3 John Wagner
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Might have to drop a couple of nukes on LA and feel bad about the collateral damage later
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PO3 John Wagner
PO3 John Wagner
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They do but range is only good enough for no more than fourty miles into the LA basin....(is a basin a sink or a toilet?)
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