Posted on Jul 23, 2016
With the broad spectrum of Republican candidates, how did we end up with Trump and Clinton?
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There were over a dozen Republican candidates: Dr. Carson, Trump, Christie, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Carlie Fiorina, Gingrich and more. The Democratic Party may have had their process rigged but there was only two choices...
With the broad spectrum of Republican candidates, how in the wide, wide world of sports did we end up with Trump?
With the broad spectrum of Republican candidates, how in the wide, wide world of sports did we end up with Trump?
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Well, after the little email bit we know how we ended up with Hillbillary on the "D" side since it was pretty much cooked and as far as the Trump, there was really no pre favorite and way too many up on the stage who all were pretty much drowned out by his maverick approach that many Americans found refreshing and was saying what they thought. Unlike decades ago, the best and the brightest do not enter government to serve the nation but instead the carnival shills and those looking to line their own pockets the easy way.
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wow, MSgt Wayne Morris leads the way with hot sports opinion! I can't argue that at all. The Ds put in the fix and the Rs couldn't fix theirs!
One of the main reasons was he used his own money in the primary. The rest didn't/couldn't afford to do so. People know one thing, it's about the money. That's how we got Trump
A vote for anything BUT the status quo. People are disgusted and fed up. Real clear politics shows 24% of the country thinks we are on the wrong track.
https://theintercept.com/2015/05/07/congress-argues-cant-investigated-insider-trading/
https://theintercept.com/2015/05/07/congress-argues-cant-investigated-insider-trading/
Congress Tells Court That Congress Can’t Be Investigated for Insider Trading
After taking a victory lap for passing a bill meant to curb insider trading, the House declares itself immune from insider-trading investigations.
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CMSgt Mike Esser I've been wanting to discuss the topic of congressional insider trading. Perhaps you should start a new discussion!
My opinion is that President Obama, allied with the mainstream media, the entertainment industry, and liberal academia played their cards really well. They were able to falsely re-brand the GOP. Then the GOP misread the national mood on social issues that are not our core issues. (see post- script), and played our cards really poorly. Then we stepped right into the false re-brand.
Now you have centrist America feeling cut out. We're pissed and unfortunately we're more interested in how pissed our candidate is than how much he actually represents us on our core issues.
post script - I believe most "everyday Joe" Republican's care a hell of a lot more about the Federal government's footprint, energy, national security, law and order, and the economy; than is it warmer than last year, who are you sleeping with, where you going to the bathroom, and are you going to jail for smoking pot. But we stepped into the tar pit willingly. Shame on us.
Now you have centrist America feeling cut out. We're pissed and unfortunately we're more interested in how pissed our candidate is than how much he actually represents us on our core issues.
post script - I believe most "everyday Joe" Republican's care a hell of a lot more about the Federal government's footprint, energy, national security, law and order, and the economy; than is it warmer than last year, who are you sleeping with, where you going to the bathroom, and are you going to jail for smoking pot. But we stepped into the tar pit willingly. Shame on us.
Because the Republican party has been pandering for years to the far right fringe that Trump appeals to. They essentially brought it on themselves. See the rise of the Tea Party section, pandering to those voters and those beliefs is what enabled Trump to be anything more than a laughing stock candidate.
The extreme right of the GOP base has grown increasingly vocal and energized in recent years (cases like Citizen's United aside), which has pushed the primary campaigning in their direction. In districts typically locked solidly in the red, incumbents now have to worry about not being "Republican enough" to survive primary season. The result is that during general elections, the comparison bwteen the Democratic and Republican candidates becomes quite jarring.
As a side not, I think Rubio was probably the most electable candidate the GOP had this cycle, but the right-shift of the base compromised his chances. He didn't fit the new standard Republican mold and thus didn't have a snowball's chance in hell.
As a side not, I think Rubio was probably the most electable candidate the GOP had this cycle, but the right-shift of the base compromised his chances. He didn't fit the new standard Republican mold and thus didn't have a snowball's chance in hell.
It wasn't Trump's win. It was the GOP loss. 20 years ago, Reps thought they were in Reagan's party. Then the Tea Party took the right further right until Reagan couldn't even qualify to BE a Republican anymore. It got worse when the head of the "party of small government" decided to secretly eavesdrop on Americans. By 2008, even the GOP's leadership knew GWB had screwed up by starting the OIF war. Then, once BHO was elected, the GOP leadership abandoned all pretense at governing. They produced nearly no new legislation--the worst "do nothing" Congress in history. They were so focused on ensuring that the government of BHO would have no successes that they forgot to represent their own base. The leadership abandoned the base. The base needed a new party. They're all Trumpists, now.
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Capt Michael Greene - there is a discussion to look at statistics for women in the GOP. It's hard to define a moderate, I think they'r like snipes... It's impossible to discuss 3)it's mind when presented the way you did. If you want to vent, go for it but you're not leaving much to discuss here...
ACA - yes! thanks. there were several proposed models for health care, the most simple one that PBO didn't like was to stop the insurance companies to only operate within state boundaries. Make it more like car or house insurance.
PBO certainly didn't mind the Patriot Act and wiretaps. He even killed the first American citizen accused of being a terrorist in the middle east with a drone strike.
I'm not sure your actually trying to contribute to the conversation or just bash one side.
It's difficult to type on a phone while riding in a car, so please excuse any typos but I bet you did get the gist of my last question. Please name the wars that we (US) started since 1900 that you consider beneficial. It was a question to counter your point of picking on the Iraq war. Are PBOs wars better than Bushes? Which was was a good one? - you pick.
ACA - yes! thanks. there were several proposed models for health care, the most simple one that PBO didn't like was to stop the insurance companies to only operate within state boundaries. Make it more like car or house insurance.
PBO certainly didn't mind the Patriot Act and wiretaps. He even killed the first American citizen accused of being a terrorist in the middle east with a drone strike.
I'm not sure your actually trying to contribute to the conversation or just bash one side.
It's difficult to type on a phone while riding in a car, so please excuse any typos but I bet you did get the gist of my last question. Please name the wars that we (US) started since 1900 that you consider beneficial. It was a question to counter your point of picking on the Iraq war. Are PBOs wars better than Bushes? Which was was a good one? - you pick.
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MAJ Charles Blake - Thanks for coming back and being firm but fair. My posts here have been cram-packed with declarative sentences meant to push my answer to stated questions, and weren't meant to leave room for anything else. Not venting, just writing in staccato cadence. PBO surprised me when he continued the Patriot Act and the drones. But I guess that once he got into the WH and got read into the real world situation, perhaps he saw those were the right things to do. Beneficial wars? We have overthrown governments in South and Central American maybe 50+ times, to our "benefit." But I don't know if any of them were "good wars." No justifiable wars come to mind except WWII and maybe Korea. PBO has killing actions going on in probably a dozen countries--all of them are the unfortunate result of GWBs imprudent reaction to 9/11. PBOs wars better than GWBs? Well, the body count is lower, so that's good. I wonder how it is that almost all other civilized countries manage to get along without sending troops around the world?
War: 100,000 family men are pushed up against 100,000 other family men and are forced to hack at each other's arms and legs and faces with clubs and axes or bombs and bullets until some rich family feels satisfied. Hard to find a benefit in that.
Some room for discussion, I think.
War: 100,000 family men are pushed up against 100,000 other family men and are forced to hack at each other's arms and legs and faces with clubs and axes or bombs and bullets until some rich family feels satisfied. Hard to find a benefit in that.
Some room for discussion, I think.
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Capt Michael Greene - plenty to discuss, I like it. PBO changed his tune about several things that a lot of reasonable people didn't think he could do like the PA and GITMO. Then he moved forward with actions that I don't understand like forecasting troop movements and numbers, trying to charge prisoners in federal court - very ultra globalist at best.
Perhaps this is a question for a new post, but I think part of American Exceptionalism is that we weren't going to be colonizing the world. We weren't looking to make a new Pax Romana so getting to bed with southern dictators may was certainly beneficial to us at the time, but not much changed overall. WWI was a pile on by us that certainly led/affected WWII. I'm not so sure we belonged in WWII either. There are a lot of historians writing about this since 2000. Very interesting reading and makes me realize that America needs to focus on America for a while. I'm not quite going Rand Paul on you but I'm closer than I used to be.
Perhaps this is a question for a new post, but I think part of American Exceptionalism is that we weren't going to be colonizing the world. We weren't looking to make a new Pax Romana so getting to bed with southern dictators may was certainly beneficial to us at the time, but not much changed overall. WWI was a pile on by us that certainly led/affected WWII. I'm not so sure we belonged in WWII either. There are a lot of historians writing about this since 2000. Very interesting reading and makes me realize that America needs to focus on America for a while. I'm not quite going Rand Paul on you but I'm closer than I used to be.
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