Posted on Oct 25, 2016
With the way the world is established this day in age, do you feel we are interrupting the course nature intended for us as a species?
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Everything we do is adaptation as a species. As we grow in population, the more conflict we will experience. Think of Earth as an island. Paupau New Guinea. We will war over food when supplies dwindle and some will migrate off the island. harmony and balance will be restored as the Earth can only sustain so many people and other living beings. The dinosaurs were wiped out by a cataclysmic event. Hopefully we won't create our own before we have a chance to evolve a greater intelligence. It all starts at home.
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SGT (Join to see)
Thinking about what a greater intelligence entails always ends up giving me headaches. What more could there be that we don't know yet? What science will we discover that changes the way we think and perceive things today? So many questions with so few answers. Guess we'll just wait and find out.
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Capt Tom Brown
Leave it to Col Rebecca Lorraine to make a thoughtful sober response to that question which is much too deep for me. Thank you Ma'am.
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Nature is constantly experimenting with now ways of doing things, some adaptations are unsuccessful and others are wildly successful. Dinosaurs ruled the planet for about 170 million years, human like beings have been around for less than 3 million years. It remains to be seen if we will wipe ourselves out, or if we will move beyond this planet to begin colonizing other worlds. I'm really hoping for the later instead of the former, however I'm not sure human greed and arrogance is something we can overcome.
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MAJ (Join to see)
It would be nice to see..a colony either on the moon or on mars...last article I read on the topic is predicting colonization by 2030...
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SSG (Join to see)
MAJ (Join to see) - I'd like to see that as well, however what I'd really like to see is the discovery of planets capable of sustaining human life. I like to believe that a science fiction like Star Trek is actually possible at some distant point in the future.
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MAJ (Join to see)
SSG (Join to see) - That would be awesome, and maybe bring the nations together under a common goal...that would be a hoot or what...
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Ever see a stupid person get sent to the hospital and survive something that would have killed them in the wild and then was allowed to have children?
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No, not particularly. As we advance as a species, we have warded off diseases that would have been a death sentence generations ago. But for every disease we can treat a new one steps in to take it's place. Then we have homosexuality which by nature's law is meant to be an evolutionary dead end. Then there are the couples who choose not to procreate who thin themselves out of the gene pool willingly. We might not see it or recognize it, but evolution is continuing to happen. Now whether the evolutionary path we take is good or bad remains to be seen. We may be living much longer lives than our ancestors, but obesity seems to be much more prevalent these days. Not to mention our penchant for scientific experimentation. We could end up evolving to the point where humans resemble the people from Wall-E or wiping ourselves out from an experiment gone wrong like 28 Days Later. But like Ian Malcolm said... life finds a way.
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The concept of "nature intended" implies some type of design or plan, which kind of brushes up against the theological. Not sure I want to touch that one. But if one is of a religious mind to find design to the order of the universe, I'm not one to stand in the way. I have my own beliefs too, and I don't find they interfere with my belief in scientific validity. But with specific regard to what "nature intends" I don't believe nature, in and of itself, intends anything for us.
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YUP! On all fronts. We are over-populating a world never intended for so many of us. We are trying to cease all natural selection and it will be our ultimate, ugly demise.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SGT (Join to see) - The natural decline in population from 2050 onwards will be due primarily to Economic Development. Once a country reaches a specific level of Economic Development, it's birthrate starts to decline. Some countries like China with it's past forced abortion program have hastened the natural process and in fact China's birthrate is now less than the United States on a per capita basis. Russia not sure what the deal is there but their rate of population decline is among the highest on the globe (almost -4% annually).....think it has something to due with their xenophobic immigration policy coupled with declining birthrate. India I think is headed for falling below the rate of replacement soon if it has not already done so. Japan is well below the rate of replacement already. The only real fast growing birth rate countries are third world and primarily African, they have relatively small populations to begin with relative to other large countries like India and China. BTW, did you know even with our current liberal approach and arguing about illegal immigration, we are still going to fall short of laborers in the work force after the baby boomer group fully retires. We will need immigrants then......so not as huge a problem as Trump suggests.
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SPC Erich Guenther
Col Rebecca Lorraine - That will take it's toll as well, look at the Russian stats though.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia
..holy crap!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia
..holy crap!!!!

Demographics of Russia - Wikipedia
The demographics of Russia is about the demographic features of the population of the Russian Federation including population growth, population density, ethnic composition, education level, health, economic status and other aspects.
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SGT (Join to see)
SPC Erich Guenther - That is very interesting. Gives me something to think about for the next few days.
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SGT (Join to see) A zero-sum game, is kind of intuitive. Mass regardless of a change of state, equals a zero-sum gain. What is, is, no more or less.
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I think you give too much credit to our ability to interrupt the course of nature. One asteroid hits the planet and we are done. We are very much at the mercy of nature, and for all of our innovations and technologies, we are nothing compared to the power of nature.
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