Civilians
Contractors
I am not saying that we do not need them by any means, I am however saying that the number of them has gotten far out of control! We have gen. mech. here that are military but doing other jobs because they are not allowed to touch the genorators because we have contractors to "do that" however most of the time they can't fix them because they are not on density.
Contractors are needed for the complex things that will save us time and money. They are not needed for everything for everything. I have just seen SOOOO many contractors that float from base to base with no real job and that is un-sat.
This is my first deployment as a staff guy and all I have heard about since I have been here is the number of contractors that are hiding out, jumping from base to base just collecting a pay check. We have almost a 1-1 ratio here, now you tell me how that makes sense. The company they work for gets paid, the contractor gets paid, and we all know that you can charge stupid amounts of money as a civ. company. We still house, feed, and protect these guys. When the base gets hit we have to account for these people and make sure they are okay, and that is fine however if we don't know that they are even here then it makes it very hard to track them.
So yes, we do need contractors and I love having them. But do the job that you were sent here to do.
wow don't believe this question. As a retiree and a PROUD GS Employee, I consider myself part of the the foundation of the Department of Defense, meaning that regardless of seperation, TDY, PCS and deployment the services I provide remain the same. Working in a career field as a GS that I held as a Military meber is a double edge sword because I know what I know and what service member should know.
I say this because if it was not for our Civil Service Members there would be no consistancy and serveral tasks would NEVER be completed. As for backstabbing "you reap what you sow"
I have worked as a DoD civilian for both the Dept. of the Army and the Dept of the Air Force. I would have to say with resounding emphasis that yes, if there is a military MOS for whatever job, it should be done by a SM.
I know there are many economical and political aspects to DoD civilians but I have to believe that the cost would be lower, the work would get done more effeciently and BRAC probably wouldn't have such a political impact if there were less civilians. While I can safely say this from the sidelines now that I work for a non-DoD agency I still believed it when I was taking the DoD's paycheck.
As others have said there are civilians that take their oath seriously and try to do the best they can and there are bad civilian employees. But I have seen a pervasive entitlement attitude on many civilian employees.
When the Army transitioned from local organizational Email, controlled at the local installation, to the Defense Information and Security Agency (DISA) Enterprise Email (DEE for short) it was noted that there was over 1.2 million email accounts that had to be transitioned or Provisioned, and then Migrated. That's over 1 civilian/contractor for every one Soldier. Now this not taking into account any dual persona's.
During the Recent Furlough my unit was not allowed to take any leaves or passes while the furlough was in effect. Any passes/leave that had been approved was either canceled or scrutinized.
If the Army Cannot maintain normal operations with out Civilians, or contractors at the largest its been in years, why are we making it smaller?
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