Would an E9 comply if ordered to attention by an O1?

I’ve never seen a Lt correct anyone E6 SSGT (E6) and above.

What I have observed is senior officers setting the tone for new officers.

I was a/the Sgt Battalion S2 just down the hall from the CO. We would periodically have new officers check in and the first person they met was the CO. Suffice it that you could hear a rumbling from down the hall and a few minutes later, the young officer would walk in and humbly check in.

The CO’s message was don’t mess with my Staff NCOs and NCOs.

The Col was a fair and firm leader who knew how to get the most out of his leadership team. If you were one of those Staff NCOs or NCOs, you’d better be locked in as well.

Final note was the CO used those new fresh from OCS officers to run the remedial PT program if you fell out of his battalion runs. Suffice it that those freaking Lts were gazelles and got their payback!

A smart gold bar seeks the advice of his senior NCOs. I’m not saying I am smart but that is what I did and it paid off. It was my job to make decisions and give orders, it was their job to make sure I had the proper information and suggestions to do mine. Give and get respect because we all want the same thing,

Had a buddy, E-3 at the time, who worked in the biomedical equipment shop with a CWO at Ft. Campbell. Worked side by side all day long. So one day, these two brand-new Screaming Eagle butterbars come into the shop for something, and the first thing one of them does is start screaming at my buddy, who is quietly working, saying "When a superior officer enters the room, you come to goddam attention!!" Then they look over at the Chief, who's old enough to be their dad, and said "Chief, correct your man!" Chief just looked at him for a long time and said "Son, I hope whatever you came here for isn't a rush job, because you just made the bottom of the list."

The LT needs to learn his place, I’ve LT’s do stupid shit like this only to get the CSM’s CDR to tear the LT a new one. If the CSM is like the pathetic example of the one with the hair grooming standards from hell. Have at it LT. Unfortunately many don’t understand the CSM’s relation and position in units as well as his authority and who he “only” reports too.

Not an LT story, but at Edson Range ten years ago immediately after earning the title of Marine, the Colonel in charge of Weapons Field Training Battalion was giving us a little rundown on a tradition of recognizing the conpany high shooter. He told us the story of how things worked when the current Btn SgtMajor was at boot camp and how he recently recommended that said tradition be brought back. The colonel told us, "I am not a smart man, so when a Sergeant Major with 30 years of experience says something, I listen!" Even at that high rank the colonel taught us all about the immense respect that SNCOs deserve even from high-ranking officers, and it is something I never forgot. Every Marine SNCO ive ever met would treat any fresh butter bar with the highest respect, but at the same time every butter bar I ever met--and MOS school was at Camp Johnson so it sas filled with new Basic School grads--ALWAYS treated our Sergeant Major and Master Gunnery Sergeants with respect.

Definitely if it was in front of junior enlisted. He’s setting an example. In private? Probly not.

I remember in Korea we had a 1st Lieutenant who was our commander while the commander was on leave. We were at PT formation when the CSM wanted to talk to the troops. The CSM was talking and out of nowhere the LT tells him to hurry up we needed to do our PT. There was silence. CSM raised his finger to say just a minute and continued to talk. The Battalion Commander who was present grabbed the LT and took him across the field and began tearing into him. Though the CSM was talking it was hard not to hear the BC ripping the LT. It was great time and hard to listen to the CSM after that.

I had a brand new 2LT in a Rapid deploying task force as my OIC when I was a SGT at FT. Hood. There was an empty office next to the Battalion Command Group and she took it. She told the Battalion CSM to take her trash out on day one. The CSM took her trash out at the end of day one. Day two I saw her with a cardboard box moving her office downstairs and started crying in front of our Soldiers...

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Absolutely not. Sure, he technically should but a Master Guns couldn't give two fucks about anything really and a SgtMaj would probably just lose his shot and make the Lt cry or something

As an E4 SF, our former chief, at the time our Command Chief, was ordered by a 2LT to salute him while assisting at base entry...Command CMSGT says, "I've had these stripes longer than you've been in the Air Force"....guess who drove off, tail tucked between their legs? Lol

From what Ive seen, back at my AIT at Ft Gordon, it wasnt really with an E9 and a 2lt, but it was an officer and the senior NCO, if anything after the NCO saluted and everything, the officer was the one standing in parade rest while talking with the NCO.
So yes, even though it is under the oath of enlistment, an NCO should render a salute to an officer no matter what, but in the end, the NCO (whether its an E-5 or E-9) has more experience than a new officer (who only got commissioned through the cadet program, or ROTC, or any officer school) and that officer should still respect the NCO.

Yes, he would be required to, but it would be under protest most likely if they were arguing

Of course the E9 would be required to obey the order. No one id bound to obey any illegal order but a Second Lieutenant ordering Sergeant Major to attention is not an illegal order. Commissioned officers are commissioned by the Congress while Noncommissioned officers are promoted by the respective branches of service to serve in positions of authority over other enlisted members of lower grades only. Noncommissioned officers have no law enforcement over subordinates whereas commissioned offers do have such authority.

it depends on the Situation. I have chewed on a couple of Lt´s necks and set them straight as an E-7. The bars on the shoulders are there to learn from their Senior NCO´s. I guess I pissed off a couple of officers because I operarted as a Platoon Sergeant for 10 years without a Platoon Leader.

He should. I once saw a master chief GM choke the shit out of a lieutenant jg

It would be set day for the Lt

yes

Yes, as a young specialist at Ft. Ord, CA, a young O1 jumped on my battalion CSM and a group of 1SG. That evening, I was on staff duty at the battalion hq and the battalion commander called the young 01 into his office and ate him alive.

2lt would lose