Posted on Dec 5, 2014
Would the military remain efficient or even improve without officers? Keep it professional gentlemen!
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Please maintain your military bearing and be respectful with any comments posted. Thank you.
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 31
No. Officers fill a command role that is spelled out in our Constitution. Besides, somebody would have to do the job, and I enjoy being a NCO.
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I don't even what to know what made you think of something as vacuous as this. This is like Ricky Bobby telling off someone then saying "With all due respect." It doesn't work that way. I am surprised that an SFC would ask this. Maybe we should ask if the Army have have the same DWI's or less without enlisted? That is about the quality of a question. Or you could ask any civilian company if they could do what they do without any management.
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I'm going to agree with BG doesn't matter if you have them or not someone will step in and have to drink coffee and make rules.
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I've never had a mission where an Officer was essential to mission success. I relieved that week could be just as effective with a First Sergeant as we can with a company commander or command Sergeant major then a battalion commander. Nancy I can write up an operator and do it justice proficiently is an officer or plant training days or unit movement. it's the non commissioned officer that carries out the mission anyway so as long as the non commissioned officer knows how to read and write have common sense they can do the job of a commissioned officer. In my opinion.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
That sums it up ptetty well, No rank structure means no structure period. That will not and cannot work. There are levels of command and supervision from top to bottom and all of it is needed to make any large or important project to work with clear avenues of control and direction. Someone still has to have the leadership, respect and authority to lead.
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LTC Stephen C.
Well stated, SMSgt Lawrence McCarter. I just felt like such a question in the 21st century required my full attention and a well thought out and detailed response.
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No!!!
Its this simple
Officers let the NCOs do their jobs
NCOs let the Officers do their jobs
Senior NCOs there is a time and place to discuss a jr NCO shortcomings. Its called an AFTER ACTION REVIEW.
The label SHITBAG does not apply to everyone who makes a mistake and does not have a 320+ APFT average.
Micro management only need apply to E3 and below and not because you're bored.
Officers are needed to coordinate the small picture into big picture.
SNCOs are needed to advise and assist and direct so that small picture blends into that big picture.
JR NCOs lead and direct that small picture and do not require the entire Chain of Command to bound a fire team over a thousand meters to secure and empty building without receiving hostile fire in the middle of a clear day(yes, I've seen that happen)
Its this simple
Officers let the NCOs do their jobs
NCOs let the Officers do their jobs
Senior NCOs there is a time and place to discuss a jr NCO shortcomings. Its called an AFTER ACTION REVIEW.
The label SHITBAG does not apply to everyone who makes a mistake and does not have a 320+ APFT average.
Micro management only need apply to E3 and below and not because you're bored.
Officers are needed to coordinate the small picture into big picture.
SNCOs are needed to advise and assist and direct so that small picture blends into that big picture.
JR NCOs lead and direct that small picture and do not require the entire Chain of Command to bound a fire team over a thousand meters to secure and empty building without receiving hostile fire in the middle of a clear day(yes, I've seen that happen)
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No plain and simple, enlisted ranks are full of people who would go power crazy and people( soldiers, sailors, airman) would die. I know for a fact that officers are a necessary check and without them or when they choose not to delegate or allow senior enlisted to operate within the CO's power than enlisted operations are made to struggle and suffer. As well as menta Heath problems spike.
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