Posted on Dec 17, 2014
Would you support a standard uniform for all branches of service? Why or Why not?
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As a marine I'm extremely biased, so I don't support same uniforms for all branches, I like the fact my cammies are different and our chest embodies our Eagle Globe and Anchor.
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One uniform with each branch small differences it would be cheaper due to one supply resource to draw from.
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No. I think the different uniforms is what gives each branch their identity. Also every branch has a history for why its uniform is what it is. i.e thr Army Airborne dress blues.
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Ok so what yuall want is the enemy's to know what they r shooting at different uniforms they don't know who is who just my thaughts
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Personally, i've always been in favor of the un-uniform. It promotes diversity, increases unit cohesiveness by making servicemen become aquainted with each others dressing habits to avoid friendly fire, increases enemy confusion as they cant tell our boys from civilians, and increases discipline, as ncos arent having hissy fits about a patch being a quarter of an inch off.
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For our general uniform I agree. Maybe not aboard ships though, I am surprised sailors don't wear mechanic style overalls.
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Go back to a common fatigue. One uniform saves the tax payer and simplifies the Supply Chain.
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I would support it and probably a universal rank system too so it’s easier to address other branches service members
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.... As long as it's in agreement that the Army and Air Force can keep their ugly soft covers and Marines and Navy can keep our awesome covers. I'm completely fine with unification of battle dress. Everyone just needs to go to marpat
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Use the pattern, or go back to the BDU type of pattern. Get rid of Velcro and bring buttons back
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As a marine I disagree 100% with this. As marines we hold ourselves to the highest of military standards. We wear our uniform with pride. No other branch tries to set themselves apart like we do. Marines aren't just any branch of service. We are MARINES and our uniforms show it.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
I totally agree that hold themselves to the highest of standards and pride. However, I feel that high standards isn’t just for Marines. All of DoD Armed Forces should exhibit those standards
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It would be nice to see it, remembering when most of us where in BDU’s and we just about looked the same across the board.
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You mean, like we used to have with the BDU uniform? Call it what you want, USMC was cammies or utilities, it was all the same uniform.
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I’m pretty sure the Air Force is getting new uniforms in 2 years. Not 100% but rumor is they are going back to multi cam.
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No each service needs to be it's own self. What needs to stop is the need to change the utility uniform almost every other year.
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I joined in OG107 days, seemed to make perfect sense. The first concern when they went to individual service uniforms was profit, not actual use.
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Congress arms committee out out in 2015 that all branches had to go to a universal set of uniform by fiscal year 2019. Idk what happened after that was put out but cause nobody seems to be talking about it.
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I completely agree. one utility uniform, with area specific uniforms on deployment that all services wear.
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unified in combat areas with unique to branch insignia. unique to branch class A uniform. Unique to branch rank.
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Precedent was set once the services started moving away from the BDU. Once precedent is set it's hard to go back.
Personally, I'd like a cleaner (Army) uniform. For the Army at least, I'd prefer a move back to collar rank for all and branch insignia for officers.
I believe Congress already forced the policy on new camo; all branches must agree on new additions for standardization which nobody seems to want.
Personally, I'd like a cleaner (Army) uniform. For the Army at least, I'd prefer a move back to collar rank for all and branch insignia for officers.
I believe Congress already forced the policy on new camo; all branches must agree on new additions for standardization which nobody seems to want.
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No because every branch of the military should have separate uniforms because each branch has different standards to uphold
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As long as everyone keeps there own dress uniforms. You can this Marines Dress Blues the same day as my cold dead body.
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Carriers have aways had Marines aboard who wore BDUs and Navy Sailors who served in Iraq, Afghanistan and other ground combat enviornments wore those same uniforms. Ive served in both Army and Navy and I dont remember blending into the ship being a big concern. A bigger question is why we in the army switched camo patters like 4 times duringva war where we were doing very little hiding. I remember practicing individual camoflauge during Expert Infantry Badge qualification while wearing the Armys new(at the time) ACUs and even the instructor couldnt keep a straight face. We decided to call them the I see yous.
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Marines,army,air force and some of the Navy had all the same field uniforms in the 80 and 90s when I was in So why not agin
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No. However the Army, in particular, needs to stop changing the field uniform every 5 yrs. IMHO they need to complete the issue (I know RA has to buy them) the new OCP and PT uniforms to all Army personnel. If they need a particular uniform for a different theater of operation then do so for ONLY those actually needing them. When the individual goes back to a garrison environment, then back to the OCP. Of course I Think the Army should get a true class B uniform. That white shirt has to go for casual wear.
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Kind of a difficult question to answer, but basically our uniforms represent our branch of service and that could be critical in some instances. If we were to look at things like underwear, fitness wear and many off duty aspects, perhaps. The Navy used to have specific purposes for our clothing, which increases survivability if your ship was sunk, not so much any more. Let your synthetic material seal to your skin with firs and try to make a flotation device with the new stuff.
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I fully support a single uniform for field use, with appropriate tape for branch, rank, etc... as needed.
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RallyPoint is starting to stagnate. Same recycled topics. Always Army personnel who can't agree how to regulate themselves or get with their program, or constantly fussing over whether they can put this badge or ribbon on or what
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Coming full circle. Back then when the Secretary of Defence was William Cohen, he required all service branches to use the same uniform pattern. Air Force had to give up the leather name patches and the Marines had to sew on their last names.
Amazing how we back to where it all started.
Amazing how we back to where it all started.
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I never understood each brach having its own BDU anyways. Having one for all branches with each branch having their own branch tape & rank would be in everybody's best interest. The sooner the better!
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I think we need to go back to a single utility uniform, like we had until the USMC developed MARPAT (then the Army tried to say "hold my beer" and failed with the ACUs). Furthermore, we need to let the combat arms professionals (infantry, special ops, etc) design the uniform... not the desk jockeys who place form over function.
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Good idea. I'm partial to multicam, myself. And a hat with a brim. Give SOF types their berets back, if they want them.
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We're not talking about making fashion statements. One good, versatile uniform that would serve our fighters under any circumstances would simply logistics and reduce costs. They can use hats and patches to enhance identification. Save the fashion statements for dress uniforms.
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I am torn here. Battle dress makes sense based on theater and mission not branch. Dress uniform definitely should remain separated. Good luck getting marines to give up their blood strip or letting others wear it.
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Imagine how much money the military would save. I remember when we all wore BDU's.
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As long as it's not the Army one we wore in Afghanistan - that was extremely uncomfortable and did not feel like a uniform; it felt more like pajamas
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
LT Charles Baird - I can't comment, because I never wore that one. I was in Afghanistan in 2003. Say hi to Cheatham Annex for me. I live in Williamsburg when I was a LT, 1989-1993, but never had access to Cheatham.
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LT Charles Baird
CDR Michael Goldschmidt - You didn't miss much there really isn't anything there but NAVELSG
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After wearing the Navy's blue cammies I would say yes.....no reason we shouldn't all be in the same utility uniform all the time. Service and dress uniforms should always be service specific, however.
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