Posted on Dec 17, 2014
Would you support a standard uniform for all branches of service? Why or Why not?
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Each service has a distinct and unique mission. It's uniform needs are as well, and the uniforms should reflect that. For instance my branch the USCG interfaces with the public on an almost daily basis. We do not generally spend a lot of time trying to blend into the back ground, but we do spend a lot of time being very visible. Cammo and subdued insignia is neither needed or desired. When our units that do deploy, and need such uniforms it is easy enough to obtain what is needed from whoever they are deploying with. such as our units in the Persian Gulf and Afghanistan do.
On a side note, I find the navy "blueberries" just plain silly. Blue cammo pattern on a big grey ship? Why?
On a side note, I find the navy "blueberries" just plain silly. Blue cammo pattern on a big grey ship? Why?
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I would support a common work/field uniform for the Army, Air Force and Marines with the Navy & Coast Guard having one that would blend into their ships more. Which the Navy Seals would wear would depend on where their mission was. Each service should maintain their own dress uniforms.
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LNCM (E9) USN Retired. One combat/field uniform would work with individual service identifying insignia. Non-combat uniform, especially the Navy's khaki for Chief Petty Officers and O's, and dress uniforms should remain the same as they are. Tradition builds esprit de corps. IMHO
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I agree we should have a standard combat uniform. Nowadays with all the velcro on the uniforms, it's a lot easier to change branch, unit and specialty badges. I always have thought was a waste of money to have each branch do R&D for the combat uniform and then have a contractor produce a branch specialized uniform pattern. It was bad enough when Desert Storm kicked off that the Army had soldiers wearing about four different camo patterns, including woodland camo in the desert! I have never understood why the Navy and Air Force need blue camo. Ships are not blue they are grey. I don't think the Air Force is hiding people behind clouds.
I think that the dress uniforms for each branch should be distinctive so that our civilian population can see the difference. Of course in some cases, civilians don't know the difference like which branch guards the Tomb of the Unknowns, or the White House. Or flies/guards the Presidental helicopter or
Presidential airplane.
I think that the dress uniforms for each branch should be distinctive so that our civilian population can see the difference. Of course in some cases, civilians don't know the difference like which branch guards the Tomb of the Unknowns, or the White House. Or flies/guards the Presidental helicopter or
Presidential airplane.
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I can see ground forces wearing O.D. green fatigues or BDU’s and the Navy back to dungarees. But all these different cammies is getting ridicules. I live in San Antonio and saw a bunch of service members in a new cammie and thought they where Marines and said so to my wife. I was shocked when I got close enough to see the service tape and it said U.S. Navy. It shocked my wife also. And, we could not figure out anybody’s rank. I walked up to one and when I was within six feet of him, I saw his rank was CDR. The new “Marine” pattern hides the rank real well. With this new cammie and the tan and blacks that the navy wears, I think they are trying to look like Marines. The Navy needs to go back to dungarees for work uniforms and stop copying the Marines and the other services need to go back to the fatigues or woodland BDU’s. It would save a lot of money. Just my two cents.....
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I'd go all the way back to "3 uinforms per service":
Dress
"Garrison Work"
Combat.
Combat would be a singular uniform w/service specific "looks" (Velcro flightline-style names for USAF, etc.) and "theater specific", aka Desert Camo for desert ops, etc. Worn while "in the field" only.
"Garrison" uniforms would bring back Dungarees & Ball Caps to Navy, Khaki's to USAF, and the "Analog Woodland/hunter Camo" to USMC/USA. Worn most times.
And Dress Uniforms stay the way they are.
Dress
"Garrison Work"
Combat.
Combat would be a singular uniform w/service specific "looks" (Velcro flightline-style names for USAF, etc.) and "theater specific", aka Desert Camo for desert ops, etc. Worn while "in the field" only.
"Garrison" uniforms would bring back Dungarees & Ball Caps to Navy, Khaki's to USAF, and the "Analog Woodland/hunter Camo" to USMC/USA. Worn most times.
And Dress Uniforms stay the way they are.
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Yes. A common uniform would be cheaper, "BDU"s and Class "A"s. Each Service could wear different types of stripes and insignia like they do now. It might even foster a bit more cooperation between services and cut down on some divisive competitiveness. I'm not sure but I think the Canadian Forces have had the same uniforms for many years. Please don't make a dress uniform look like a rainbow!! Not too flashy and not too drab but respectable with a look of authority as well as practical. I always did like the 1940s Ike Jacket except for the color. The old OD uniforms I took home with me when they were not so presentable for duty lasted me many years used for hunting, fishing or outside work. After 10 years of wear I gave the OD trousers to my mechanic brother who wore them 3 or 4 more years in the grease and grime of auto mechanic work. They were permanently stained with ragged cuffs and pockets but were still actually wearable when he discarded them. The Army got their money's worth with the OD uniform but they got screwed on the color. The combat boots of the 1960s and 1970s were much more comfortable than the 1930-40s buckle top boots and I believe took more punishment. I never cared for the leggings and service shoes of the 30s and 40s either. Just an old soldier's opinion.
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The men and women who still wear the uniform will have the better insight. Go troops!
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I think it's a great idea. I agree that individuality is great but let's be realistic. For at least the past 15 years, combat has taken place in the Middle East, and the way things are going it seems we'll be here for a while. The some Air Force units have already started phasing out ABU's for the new OCP's, or ACU's as the Air Force calls it (super original right?). At the end of the day we're not soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines. We're Americans. In my opinion we all have one job, and that is to support and defend the constitution of the United States of America, not to to be a soldier sailor airman or marine. I personally think the Air Force is doing the transition well. We use the exact same uniform, mine actually has the army logo on the tag. The only thing that's different is ranks obviously, and thread color for name tapes. That's just my opinion on the issue.
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I support the idea, but it won't fly with my Jarhead buddies! They just gotta be different. (See other comments) Back when we had BDU's Marines would roll their sleeves so the pale inside if the fabric would be exposed, the one thing they did that made sense to me!
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BLUF: No. We fought a war to be independent of The Crown. The UK and other NATO Forces have integrated their forces into one size fits all. Since YORKTOWN 1775 we are the UNITED STATES MILITARY!
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I think this is a great idea....I was in during Vietnam and said the same thing = save money, etc. with one BDU type uniform. (Be interesting other comments!)...
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No. Different branches have different jobs that require different uniforms, training and skills on completely different teams. The uniform for each service is an identifier and a source of pride for each branch of service.
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Nope, troops take pride in their unit and their service branch. Who want's to be "just like everybody else" Also different missions dictate different uniforms.
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I concur that we should have a deployment uniform such as the multicam for all our services. The current uniforms for the Army and Air Force are the worst I have seen in many years. The Navy is now getting smart and doing away with the Blue Berry uniform. The BDU was a great uniform for most deployment locations but our current deployment locations are not compatible with it. The multicam is the best so far.
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One fatigue uniform for all makes sense. Unifies us all together. On battlefield you do not need to be thinking shoot or not. Allies are tough enough to id.
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